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    Re: Should churches be forced to perform sick homosexual mockeries of marriages?

    is there anybody that buys into the irrational fear that based on equal rights churches will be forced to marry "da gays" . . .please admit it now . . thanks
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    Re: Should churches be forced to perform sick homosexual mockeries of marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    is there anybody that buys into the irrational fear that based on equal rights churches will be forced to marry "da gays" . . .please admit it now . . thanks
    Given the rather authoritarian behavior of left and right, I don't buy into any restraint by government against our rights and liberties.
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    Re: Should churches be forced to perform sick homosexual mockeries of marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    is there anybody that buys into the irrational fear that based on equal rights churches will be forced to marry "da gays" . . .please admit it now . . thanks
    That line was crossed when businesses such as bakeries and florists and photographers were successfully sued for refusing to participate in sick homosexual mockeries of weddings.

    That line has been crossed, and if it is allowed to stand, then there remains nothing in the way of forcing the same thing on churches and ministers.
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    Re: Should churches be forced to perform sick homosexual mockeries of marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    That line was crossed when businesses such as bakeries and florists and photographers were successfully sue for refusing to participate in sick homosexual mockeries of weddings.

    That line has been crossed, and if it is allowed to stand, then there remains nothing in the way of forcing the same thing on churches and ministers.
    So, now your florist and baker is like clergy?

    I am curious, if I confess something to the baker who made my Kringle, can he testify in court about what I said?

    If the cake is the same type of cake that the baker normally makes and the flower arrangements are similar to those he normally arranges - the behavior is garden variety discrimination. If they want to freely discriminate in such a manner, there are ways to operate your business so that you do not need to accommodate everyone.

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    Re: Should churches be forced to perform sick homosexual mockeries of marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    So, now your florist and baker is like clergy?
    The Constitution certainly makes no distinction between them. A baker has exactly the same First Amendment rights as a clergyman.
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    Re: Should churches be forced to perform sick homosexual mockeries of marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    The Constitution certainly makes no distinction between them. A baker has exactly the same First Amendment rights as a clergyman.
    Take it up with the Supreme Court.

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    Re: Should churches be forced to perform sick homosexual mockeries of marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Take it up with the Supreme Court.
    “You seem to consider the federal judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions, a very dangerous doctrine, indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have with others the same passions for the party, for power and the privilege of the corps. Their power is the more dangerous, as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots.” — Thomas Jefferson
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    Re: Should churches be forced to perform sick homosexual mockeries of marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    “You seem to consider the federal judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions, a very dangerous doctrine, indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have with others the same passions for the party, for power and the privilege of the corps. Their power is the more dangerous, as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots.” — Thomas Jefferson
    I seem to understand that in the US, the SCOTUS pretty much has final say in this land.

    So like I said....take it up with SCOTUS.

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    Re: Should churches be forced to perform gay marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    No, they should not.
    Right. Your club, your rules.

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    Where are all these other "left-yes" votes coming from? More than 20 in the poll, but just one named poster.
    I've noticed this before. The answer will be 'lurkers'.
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    Re: Should churches be forced to perform gay marriages?

    Hell no.
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