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    Re: Does the left exhibit moral nihilism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do not think most people "adhere" to an ideology, only that one described their basic thought processes.
    I agree. A political ideology/philosophy is really impossible to follow 100% of the time.


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    Re: Does the left exhibit moral nihilism?

    No. Even most self-proclaimed "nihilists" do not exhibit nihilism.

    Nihilism =/= hedonism

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    Re: Does the left exhibit moral nihilism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Morality is a constant topic in politics. All sides seek to appear moral to an extent (for votes) but politics and reality aren't often the same.
    Word games, moral equivocation, speech policing, a lack of objectivism are all factors here.


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    Does the left exhibit moral nihilism?
    Do neo-cons exhibit moral nihilism when they criticize obama for not starting enough wars as it is?

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    Re: Does the left exhibit moral nihilism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do not think most people "adhere" to an ideology, only that one described their basic thought processes.
    Nihilism is a term that has a lot of denotations because it has been over used. Describing an intentional state, it is basically a quasi-mystical way of describing cognitive dissonance.

    The dissonance at work in America is that you have two political parties which persistent polled majorities apparently don't like or believe represent them or their interests. Yet somehow these same majorities work out in their heads that the best way going forward is to vote for one of the because, " lesser of two evils, blah, blah, blah."

    Which in and of itself isn't nihilism -- just political disengagement. The problem is, they get whipped in a "home team" frenzy that entails getting engaged with politics passionately but through a series of artificial rituals (voting, donations, talking up your side and talking down the opposition) that will never amount to a policy change reflecting any person's perceptions of what America can be to any meaningful degree. That's the essence of nihilism as an intentional state, when the manner in which a person is acting on their intentions does not agree with nature of those intentions. Common parlance would call it 'hypocrisy'.

    The Democrats and Republicans have the track records they do and the two party system being what there is, there is no way the average man could go to the bat for or against either of them without being a nihilist.
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    Re: Does the left exhibit moral nihilism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Do neo-cons exhibit moral nihilism when they criticize obama for not starting enough wars as it is?
    Can you give examples of this?
    BTW-whats your take on Molyneux?

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    Re: Does the left exhibit moral nihilism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Can you give examples of this?
    BTW-whats your take on Molyneux?
    http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/...ing-enough-war

    I don't really see Why a pro Jesus YouTube video has anything to do with exhibiting morality especially when religions have used government to commit more atrocities then anything else in our known history

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    Re: Does the left exhibit moral nihilism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Republicans criticize Obama for not wanting enough war

    I don't really see Why a pro Jesus YouTube video has anything to do with exhibiting morality especially when religions have used government to commit more atrocities then anything else in our known history
    Yeah thats an especially unbiased title there isn't it?

    Molyneux is an outspoken libertarian, did you watch the video?

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    Re: Does the left exhibit moral nihilism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Yeah thats an especially unbiased title there isn't it?

    Molyneux is an outspoken libertarian, did you watch the video?
    It's the fact that big neo cons like McCain criticized obama for lack of boots on the ground in Iraq.

    No I'll watch it and let you know

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    Re: Does the left exhibit moral nihilism?

    I don't think anyone who isn't actually insane literally has no preference for one action over another. That would mean that such a person would just as easily eat a tuna sandwich as they would light themselves and four other people on fire. I don't think that a functioning human brain is capable of doing that.
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    Re: Does the left exhibit moral nihilism?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Yeah thats an especially unbiased title there isn't it?

    Molyneux is an outspoken libertarian, did you watch the video?
    It's too long for me too watch but yes I'd much rather live in a nation that allows freedom of religion then a central planned economy or a statist society. I do however know that religion has been used to create governmental power throughout history so we need to be careful of it breaching politics. Have we ever had an agnostic president or speaker of the house?

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