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    Re: Does Alan Dershowitz protest too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    At this point, there's no evidence against him and it's just another run-of-the-mill scandal that Dershowitz has been caught up in because of his friends/clients, who appear to be the primary focus of any civil suits/criminal investigations.

    A fat lot of nothing, basically.
    Not everyone agrees with you. Here's another side:


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    Re: Does Alan Dershowitz protest too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Not everyone agrees with you. Here's another side:

    Nobody has to agree with me, and he may be guilty as sin. Personally, I've never liked the guy... or any of the scumbag lawyers who helped O.J. get away with murder. I just don't shriek "Guilty! String 'em up!" until I see actual hard evidence; I've not seen any.

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    Re: Does Alan Dershowitz protest too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Nobody has to agree with me, and he may be guilty as sin. Personally, I've never liked the guy... or any of the scumbag lawyers who helped O.J. get away with murder. I just don't shriek "Guilty! String 'em up!" until I see actual hard evidence; I've not seen any.
    That is a fair position to take. However, it appeared that your position was that the whole matter was nothing, and that is simply not true madame.

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    Re: Does Alan Dershowitz protest too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    That is a fair position to take. However, it appeared that your position was that the whole matter was nothing, and that is simply not true madame.
    The allegations are serious; most allegations are. However, without evidence to back them up... and at this point, there really is none... it's just another scandal du jour, since most of these things seem to disappear as soon as they fall out of the headlines. To me, it's still a fat lot of nothing until somebody shows me, well, something.

    I feel the same way about Cosby. Lots of smoke around the Cos, has been for decades, so although I have my suspicions that some of that smoke comes from real flames, there is no concrete evidence beyond myriad allegations, many of which have been proven false previously and many of which have been proven to be money/extortion based... so to me, it again is just another scandal du jour until proven otherwise.

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    Re: Does Alan Dershowitz protest too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
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    Re: Does Alan Dershowitz protest too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    The allegations are serious; most allegations are. However, without evidence to back them up... and at this point, there really is none... it's just another scandal du jour, since most of these things seem to disappear as soon as they fall out of the headlines. To me, it's still a fat lot of nothing until somebody shows me, well, something.
    What you have said here is fine with the exception of your assertion that there really is no evidence. You don't know that first of all. Second of all, there is indeed evidence that supports the notion that it is possible that the allegations could be true. But, certainly there is none that has been made public, that would lead one to conclusively believe that they are true. Therefore, I agree, we should not string up individuals under such circumstances. Having said that, because there is indeed evidence that demonstrates that it is possible, I don't agree with your assertion that it's a fat lot of nothing. But that is subjective, and we are both entitled to our opinions in that regard, and I respect yours. I hope that you will do the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I feel the same way about Cosby. Lots of smoke around the Cos, has been for decades, so although I have my suspicions that some of that smoke comes from real flames, there is no concrete evidence beyond myriad allegations, many of which have been proven false previously and many of which have been proven to be money/extortion based... so to me, it again is just another scandal du jour until proven otherwise.
    In Cosby's case, that's quite a few people making accusations. I say that as someone who has been a great admirer of Cosby. He reminds me a lot of my father. His mannerisms, wit, etc.

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    Re: Does Alan Dershowitz protest too much?

    Here's something about Paul Cassell, one of the lawyers who is representing the victims.

    Meet the Lawyer Who's Giving Dershowitz Hell

    Who's Paul Cassell? And why is he giving Alan Dershowitz such agita?

    Cassell, a law professor at the University of Utah, has alleged, with co-counsel Brad Edwards, that Dershowitz had sex with a minor when the Harvard law professor was a guest of billionaire Jeffrey Epstein over 10 years ago. Dershowitz says "no one can understand [Cassell's] motive" in getting involved in such a sensationalistic case. (Cassell and Edwards are seeking to void a plea agreement, which Dershowitz helped draft, that spared the billionaire federal charges for sexually abusing minors. Click here for more details about the case.)

    Though Dershowitz has called both Cassell and Edwards, a Florida personal injury lawyer, "liars"—he seems most vexed (and perplexed) by Cassell. That might be because Cassell also has an elite resume—one that might lend extra credibility to the case: A former federal judge, Cassell was also a US Attorney, clerk for Chief Justice Warren Burger and president of the Stanford Law Review.

    So who's this mysterious law professor taking on the Harvard icon? I contacted Cassell to find out. Here are excerpts from our three phone conversations and various email exchanges:

    ..............

    How strong is this case? Do you think you can void Epstein's plea agreement with the feds?
    We always look for cases with strong claims that have wide ranging impact. We feel we have a strong case against the government for violating the rights of victims. We're not commenting on the details of the case; we prefer to speak through our court pleadings.
    This guy seems to think he has a strong case. I don't think it bodes well for Dershowitz.

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