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    Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Should concealing your identity in public be a crime/illegal?


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    Wearing your hoodie in public could soon cost you up to a $500 fine | KFOR.com
    OKLAHOMA CITY,Okla.-The cold Oklahoma weather has many sporting hoodies outside to help fight the cold, but wearing a hood in a public place could soon be against the law.

    The idea of banning hoods is not new to Oklahoma, right now, there is a law banning hoods during crimes that’s been around since the 20’s.
    It was originally drafted to help combat crimes from the Klu-Klux-Klan, but people we spoke with say a new amendment of banning hoodies in public could open doors to a bigger problem.
    They’re a common closet find, the hoodie.
    “I’ve been wearing hoodies since I was a little kid,” Eduar Carreon, a hoodie user said.
    Even Kevin Durant is a hoodie fan.
    “If somebody is out running, especially in this kind of weather, where it`s cold, drizzly, you might be inclined to wear your hoodie at Lake Hefner,” attorney James Siderias said.
    “21 OS 1301 has always made it a crime to wear a hoodie or some sort of disguise during the commission of criminal offense,” Siderias says.
    Now, a proposal for an amendment to that law, could make it illegal to hide your identity in public. The fine for your fashion crime? $500.



    I say no.It is none of the government's damn business what I look like in public.Sure if I am testifying in court,at bank, getting a driver's license or some other similar thing my identity should not be concealed.
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    I say no. No where in the Constitution is the notion that the government has the right to force you to be easier to identify. But for other reasons I suspect this will get challenged in short order.
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    I say no. No where in the Constitution is the notion that the government has the right to force you to be easier to identify. But for other reasons I suspect this will get challenged in short order.
    Actually that would fall under the 10th amendment, however banning clothing would be a violation of the 1st amendment

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    What I find interesting is that it bans hoods "while committing crimes." Like a criminal would be like, "Whoops, better take off the hoodie, wouldn't want to break the law while I'm breaking the law."


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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    All sorts of potential for abuse here: wearing a motorcycle helmet, wearing a halloween costume, wearing a welding mask, a patient wearing bandages, a shopping mall Santa Claus, an actor/actress in costume/make-up or simply being inside a car with tinted windows all make it more difficult to determine identity.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    this is your small-govt GOP in practice


    completely asinine law

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Hoods are already banned inside banks here in Illinois--and I support that law--drop the hoods in a building.

    But outside, we'll have a wind chill factor of -20 tonight here in North Central Illinois.

    Hoods help to secure ear phones and a bad hair day.

    This is most certainly an excuse to profile .
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Especially needing tinted windows where you live in Texas and the whole southwest with your brutal heat .

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    All sorts of potential for abuse here: wearing a motorcycle helmet, wearing a halloween costume, wearing a welding mask, a patient wearing bandages, a shopping mall Santa Claus, an actor/actress in costume/make-up or simply being inside a car with tinted windows all make it more difficult to determine identity.
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should concealing your identity in public be a crime/illegal?


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    Wearing your hoodie in public could soon cost you up to a $500 fine | KFOR.com





    I say no.It is none of the government's damn business what I look like in public.Sure if I am testifying in court,at bank, getting a driver's license or some other similar thing my identity should not be concealed.
    I agree with your take on it. I must admit that I wonder if this is some sort of move on the part of those doing this, to try and have support for banning Muslim head wraps, if they determine it's needed at some point in the future.
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Singling out hoodies especially makes this seem more like a move against black youths, to give police even more ability to stop and search people based on their appearance. This is not acceptable.

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I agree with your take on it. I must admit that I wonder if this is some sort of move on the part of those doing this, to try and have support for banning Muslim head wraps, if they determine it's needed at some point in the future.
    Maybe this, too.
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