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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I admit to not reading it though the question in the OP wasn't "do you agree with the law", rather it was "should concealing your identity in public be a crime".


    Having now read it it's one of those "concealing one's identity while committing a crime" statutes. I would point out that the law is drafted weirdly. It says that wearing a mask while committing a crime or harrassing someone is a crime but then lists a number of exceptions that weren't being criminalized in any case. Might just be that the drafters are sloppy or stupid - wouldn't be first time. Strange.
    I 100% agree with your post, and I did the same thing I didn't read the law at first.

    This law was drafted by someone who was drunk. My assumption.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Interesting, not one legitimate yes vote. Looks like the Gestapo struck out again.
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Interesting, not one legitimate yes vote. Looks like the Gestapo struck out again.
    Navy, can you believe we are all agreeing on something? It's amazing.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Politicians aren't elected for being weak on crime.
    But when people think "I want someone to be tough on crime" they don't think "I want it to be illegal to wear a hoodie."

    I sometimes wear a full face mask when skiing. That's why it's often called a ski mask. It's Minnesota. It's ****in cold outside and I'm going like a bat out of hell down this hill. I'd prefer the skin on my face to stay on my face when I go back inside, so I wear a mask.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    But when people think "I want someone to be tough on crime" they don't think "I want it to be illegal to wear a hoodie."
    No, but they should be thinking that. We don't have the war on drugs, minimum sentencing laws, three strikes you're out, asset forfeiture, prison violence and massive recidivism because we keep voting for the guy who stands for progressive and rehabilitative criminal justice policies. Sure, you'll get a candidate who stands for progressive policies now and again, and then the other guy tells everybody his opponent is lenient on criminals and if elected everybody's families will be murdered and raped in their sleep. That manner of campaigning is successful, people want it, and voila, hoodies are illegal (but only during a crime, of course).

    If you don't want ridiculous and regressive laws, stop rewarding the crazies spouting tough-on-crime rhetoric.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I sometimes wear a full face mask when skiing. That's why it's often called a ski mask. It's Minnesota. It's ****in cold outside and I'm going like a bat out of hell down this hill. I'd prefer the skin on my face to stay on my face when I go back inside, so I wear a mask.
    Then I would advise that you not jaywalk while visiting Oklahoma in the winter.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    No, but they should be thinking that. We don't have the war on drugs, minimum sentencing laws, three strikes you're out, asset forfeiture, prison violence and massive recidivism because we keep voting for the guy who stands for progressive and rehabilitative criminal justice policies. Sure, you'll get a candidate who stands for progressive policies now and again, and then the other guy tells everybody his opponent is lenient on criminals and if elected everybody's families will be murdered and raped in their sleep. That manner of campaigning is successful, people want it, and voila, hoodies are illegal (but only during a crime, of course).

    If you don't want ridiculous and regressive laws, stop rewarding the crazies spouting tough-on-crime rhetoric.



    Then I would advise that you not jaywalk while visiting Oklahoma in the winter.
    You are conflating "tough on crime" with insanity like this, and there's no particular reason that needs to be true. "Arrest everyone with a hoodie" is not the will of the voter so you shouldn't go claiming the voter's wishes are what's bringing this.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You are conflating "tough on crime" with insanity like this, and there's no particular reason that needs to be true. "Arrest everyone with a hoodie" is not the will of the voter so you shouldn't go claiming the voter's wishes are what's bringing this.
    Deuce, do you think the town councilman elected on a platform of drug rehabilitation, increased education in prison, job training and less severe sentencing would have proposed outlawing the hoodie, or do you think that came from the guy whose campaign rhetoric would have made Genghis Khan cringe? You want to think that the rhetoric and nutcase laws like these can be separate, but that's simply wishful thinking.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Not related to my previous argument, but the author of the bill, Oklahoma Senator Don Barrington, received $9530 from private prisons. Shocker!

    Political Donations from Private-Prison Interests | Oklahoma Watch

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    As for his other positions, Don Barrington opposed drug legalization and called his opponent "soft on crime," and wanted women to undergo forced ultrasounds before considering an abortion.

    Ten minutes into writing this post: Okay, seriously, where are this guy's quotes, where's his website, where's news clippings of his campaign, where's his campaign speeches? Was he just spontaneous birthed from the womb of hell fully grown one dark and rainy day? Before the hoodie story it's like this guy practically never existed.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Deuce, do you think the town councilman elected on a platform of drug rehabilitation, increased education in prison, job training and less severe sentencing would have proposed outlawing the hoodie, or do you think that came from the guy whose campaign rhetoric would have made Genghis Khan cringe? You want to think that the rhetoric and nutcase laws like these can be separate, but that's simply wishful thinking.
    Which guy's rhetoric would make Genghis Khan cringe? Which specific language?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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