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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What I find interesting is that it bans hoods "while committing crimes." Like a criminal would be like, "Whoops, better take off the hoodie, wouldn't want to break the law while I'm breaking the law."
    That's one of those crimes that's there really to give the prosecutor something else to charge you with along with whatever else you did.

    Edit: i voted no. It's all kinds of wrong for all kinds of reasons.
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should concealing your identity in public be a crime/illegal?
    So if I'm in public and some random stranger wants to have a look at my driver's license, you're arguing that I should be arrested if I make any attempt to conceal my identity since we're in public?

    Did you already by a t-shirt with your social security number on it?

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    It's depressing how many people commented without reading the actual bill.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Hell no. The fact that this is even being considered is ridiculous to me.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    It's depressing how many people commented without reading the actual bill.
    I admit to not reading it though the question in the OP wasn't "do you agree with the law", rather it was "should concealing your identity in public be a crime".


    Having now read it it's one of those "concealing one's identity while committing a crime" statutes. I would point out that the law is drafted weirdly. It says that wearing a mask while committing a crime or harrassing someone is a crime but then lists a number of exceptions that weren't being criminalized in any case. Might just be that the drafters are sloppy or stupid - wouldn't be first time. Strange.
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I admit to not reading it though the question in the OP wasn't "do you agree with the law", rather it was "should concealing your identity in public be a crime".
    There are several posts directly referring to the law talking about things like it singling out hoodies (which was a media invention) or being targeted at Muslim dress (which is specifically excluded). It's the usual presumptive reactions you see in so many threads, I just happened to be inspired to mention it here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Having now read it it's one of those "concealing one's identity while committing a crime" statutes. I would point out that the law is drafted weirdly. It says that wearing a mask while committing a crime or harrassing someone is a crime but then lists a number of exceptions that weren't being criminalized in any case. Might just be that the drafters are sloppy or stupid - wouldn't be first time. Strange.
    The legislation was originally focused on concealing identify while committing a crime but the article was about an admittedly questionable amendment to add a second clause criminalising intentionally concealing your identity in general (though with a whole load of exceptions).

    It doesn't strike me as especially weirdly written as legislative documentation go, not to say that isn't weird anyway.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    That's one of those crimes that's there really to give the prosecutor something else to charge you with along with whatever else you did.

    Edit: i voted no. It's all kinds of wrong for all kinds of reasons.
    That does seem to be the strategy these days... throw a bunch of scheit against the wall and *something* is sure to stick.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    There are Americans that actually support this nonsense?
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What I find interesting is that it bans hoods "while committing crimes." Like a criminal would be like, "Whoops, better take off the hoodie, wouldn't want to break the law while I'm breaking the law."
    It seems utterly asinine on the surface of it, but as has almost certainly pointed out by now, it just appears to be another premise that will give police the power to search and arrest "urban youths" on probable cause (and to add to the prosecutor's bag of charges in court).

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    There are Americans that actually support this nonsense?
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