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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Actually that would fall under the 10th amendment, however banning clothing would be a violation of the 1st amendment
    We are not saying anything in disagreement, just multiple paths to the same conclusion.
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should concealing your identity in public be a crime/illegal?


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    Wearing your hoodie in public could soon cost you up to a $500 fine | KFOR.com





    I say no.It is none of the government's damn business what I look like in public.Sure if I am testifying in court,at bank, getting a driver's license or some other similar thing my identity should not be concealed.
    You should not be fined if you have on a one knit hole balaclava or a hoodie up, but if you enter businesses you should be forced to show your face to prevent robbery of shops and businesses.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Singling out hoodies especially makes this seem more like a move against black youths, to give police even more ability to stop and search people based on their appearance. This is not acceptable.


    If it is a crime, there is no pretext needed. Youths, yes. Black, no.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Couldn't vote yes or no. Would vote "sometimes". This appears to be the standard excessive and all encompassing law to cover what is sometimes a problem and often not. It is a law that does exactly what most wouldn't tolerate if guns were made illegal because some are used in crimes. I don't want to get stopped for wearing a balaclava in cold weather because a thief once wore one while committing a crime, but I also don't want people to routinely travel around completely hidden by their outfit in situations where they are intentionally hiding their identity. Some common sense is needed. Even if the law is intended to be used in specific circumstances then it's the sort of law that will be struck down by the courts.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    You should not be fined if you have on a one knit hole balaclava or a hoodie up, but if you enter businesses you should be forced to show your face to prevent robbery of shops and businesses.
    I can agree with that.A business owner should be allowed to dictate if someone can or can not come into their business concealed.
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I agree with your take on it. I must admit that I wonder if this is some sort of move on the part of those doing this, to try and have support for banning Muslim head wraps, if they determine it's needed at some point in the future.
    According the article there are exceptions for religious garments.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I can agree with that.A business owner should be allowed to dictate if someone can or can not come into their business concealed.
    People coming into a gas station should always be mandated to be identifiable. Safety for staff should always be paramount. But when walking in the street, minding your own business, the government should not be able to force you to not where a hoodie or wear a balaclava. Because if someone wears a scarf to protect themselves from the cold that could also be seen as concealment of identity. Only when people take part in a public protest, then the government should be able to tell people to not hide their faces during a protest or face arrest. If someone goes to a protest march with a balaclava on and gloves then that person is possibly there for more than just peaceful demonstrating.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    its amazing and sad what the politicians waste time and money on . . .
    also Senator Don Barrington? correct me if im wrong hasnt he said or has been rumored to say things in the past that i didnt read or voted no on a bill solely because his church wouldn't approve? "if" so, yeah he is already an established moron
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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    I think it is interesting that 141 people have voted at the time of my post, the vote is almost 50/50 but only people who are against it in some way are the ones voting. I voted no myself.

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    Re: Should concealing your identity in public be a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    I think it is interesting that 141 people have voted at the time of my post, the vote is almost 50/50 but only people who are against it in some way are the ones voting. I voted no myself.
    no theres a poll spammer going around spamming polls, this is why only public polls are good and you can see actual votes and disregard the anonymous ones.

    it used to be only like abortion, gay rights and gun polls would typically be spammed but now some troll is getting off on spamming all polls

    the real count is currently:
    0 no votes
    19 yes votes

    the mods will probably eventually fix this troll or make polls only votable by registered members or something
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