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Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

Is the American left becoming more and more authoritarian?

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US Conservative said:
Funny I didn't realize that this was a unilateral election.
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It was a sweep of red states in an election in which almost exclusively red state seats were up for grabs. On math alone Democrats never stood a chance.

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US Conservative said:
You sound like a Taliban fan boi. Who's "We" btw? Do you recall the results of Novembers election?
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I remember that 2014 had the lowest voter turnout in 70 years. Is that what you are cheering about? You should be because the GOP has no chance in 2016 when the turnout will be much better. There is something about a minority party that brings good voter turnouts in off years. I'll give you that.

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iguanaman said:
I remember that 2014 had the lowest voter turnout in 70 years. Is that what you are cheering about? You should be because the GOP has no chance in 2016 when the turnout will be much better. There is something about a minority party that brings good voter turnouts in off years. I'll give you that.

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Turnout is always less in the midterms. Of course by 2016 we will have had 8 years of lefty fail and a very uninspiring lefty presidential candidate in the dem ticket. I like those odds.
 
US Conservative said:
Turnout is always less in the midterms. Of course by 2016 we will have had 8 years of lefty fail and a very uninspiring lefty presidential candidate in the dem ticket. I like those odds.
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Really you think the economy is a fail? You're about the only one. You righties are in a conundrum, Obama's approval is up, gas prices are down and consumer confidence is at an EIGHT year high. This is going to be a KICK ASS YEAR and nobodies going to want to rock thst boat with another Bush for Gods sake. You'll lose that bet in a heartbeat and in 2020 and in 2024 etc.

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US Conservative said:
We hear from lefties how anyone who disagrees with them are racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, etc-in other words modern lefty versions of the word heretic. The left declares what speech is appropriate (PC). They force Americans to engage in interstate commerce. They have also become increasingly violent, reference the recent officer involved shootings, occupy, etc. All with no new ideas-just rhetoric to explain their policy failures.

There have even been calls to arrest those who disagree with them on global warming... Arrest Climate-Change Deniers

We are told (by them) that "the debate is over". :doh

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Is the left becoming more and more (nakedly) authoritarian?
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It was the American right that crossed deep into authoritarian territory by giving the secret service the unchecked, uncontrolled power to arrest and extralegally detain people and to torture them, to deny them fair trials.

That's almost exactly like the same thing the Nazis did in 1933, after taking power. Look it up: "Enabling Act" and "Reichstag fire".

And now some righties have the nerve of accusing the left of authoritarianism? Seriously?
 
German guy said:
It was the American right that crossed deep into authoritarian territory by giving the secret service the unchecked, uncontrolled power to arrest and extralegally detain people and to torture them, to deny them fair trials.

That's almost exactly like the same thing the Nazis did in 1933, after taking power. Look it up: "Enabling Act" and "Reichstag fire".

And now some righties have the nerve of accusing the left of authoritarianism? Seriously?
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I didn't realize the secret service had that power. Obama's brownshirts?
 
US Conservative said:
Why is Obama against the separation of church and state? Sounds authoritarian to me.
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Obama's version of freedom of religion is: Only those who endorse my social policies are fully free to practice their beliefs.
 
Cryptic said:
Obama's version of freedom of religion is: Only those who endorse my social policies are fully free to practice their beliefs.
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Indeed. And he's only for the separation of Church and State until he can't poke his nose into religion, than its a problem. Scotus had to smack him down.
 
US Conservative said:
Indeed. And he's only for the separation of Church and State until he can't poke his nose into religion, than its a problem. Scotus had to smack him down.
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As a side note, even Justice Soto Mayor, his own appointee, rebuked him. I truly think that Obama wants to "tame" religious expression in the United States until all forms of it become identical to say, the Episcopelian Church and thus completely affirming of and subordinate to the left wing state.

Why else would he have tried to ditch the ministerial exemption policy and also so vigorously pursue his BC agenda? At the end of the day, Obama is a left wing authoratarian. True liberals would just not lose religous freedom cases 9-0.
 
US Conservative said:
We hear from lefties how anyone who disagrees with them are racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, etc-in other words modern lefty versions of the word heretic. The left declares what speech is appropriate (PC). They force Americans to engage in interstate commerce. They have also become increasingly violent, reference the recent officer involved shootings, occupy, etc. All with no new ideas-just rhetoric to explain their policy failures.

There have even been calls to arrest those who disagree with them on global warming... Arrest Climate-Change Deniers

We are told (by them) that "the debate is over". :doh

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Is the left becoming more and more (nakedly) authoritarian?
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Left and Right are becoming unbearably authoritarian.
 
US Conservative said:
We hear from lefties how anyone who disagrees with them are racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, etc-in other words modern lefty versions of the word heretic. The left declares what speech is appropriate (PC). They force Americans to engage in interstate commerce. They have also become increasingly violent, reference the recent officer involved shootings, occupy, etc.
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Yeah, why should us lefties call people racists when they commit racist acts? And why should we call someone sexist if they act sexist? And why should we call someone homophobic when they act homophobic?

All with no new ideas-just rhetoric to explain their policy failures.
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Hm. Let me see here. YOUR boy Bush left us with two wars and the Great Recession. Obama's gotten us out of both wars and right now we're still in the middle of the longest streak of positive private sector job growth in ALL AMERICAN HISTORY! Yeah, we're real failures.

There have even been calls to arrest those who disagree with them on global warming... Arrest Climate-Change Deniers
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Yeah, shame on us for actually listening to, you know, SCIENTISTS.

We are told (by them) that "the debate is over". :doh
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For anyone who doesn't think that a right-wing politician knows better than an actual honest-to-goodness climatologist, YES, the debate IS over.

Is the left becoming more and more (nakedly) authoritarian?
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Hm. Lemme see here. What happens to a right-wing politician who says global warming is real? Or who says that gays have a right to marry and have all the rights thereof? Or who says that supply-side economics don't work?

In other words, just as you want to throw the 'authoritarian' accusation, the same applies every bit as strongly to your own side...and it's due to the polarization of the Dems and the GOP in terms of ever-increasingly liberal and conservative...which has not to my knowledge ever happened before in American history.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Yeah, why should us lefties call people racists when they commit racist acts? And why should we call someone sexist if they act sexist? And why should we call someone homophobic when they act homophobic?
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If only the actual acts were a requirement to lefties calling people all of those things. :lamo
 
Glen Contrarian said:
How much race-baiting does it take by a conservative pundit - say, Rush Limbaugh for example - before you think one could call him racist?
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Is this a hypothetical? Define "race baiting".
 
US Conservative said:
We hear from lefties how anyone who disagrees with them are racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, etc-in other words modern lefty versions of the word heretic. The left declares what speech is appropriate (PC). They force Americans to engage in interstate commerce. They have also become increasingly violent, reference the recent officer involved shootings, occupy, etc. All with no new ideas-just rhetoric to explain their policy failures.

There have even been calls to arrest those who disagree with them on global warming... Arrest Climate-Change Deniers

We are told (by them) that "the debate is over". :doh

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Is the left becoming more and more (nakedly) authoritarian?
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The authoritarianism is also coming out in the legislation the left passes....example Obamacare.....telling us that we must purchase health insurance, how much health insurance we must purchase and if we don't we can be fined 2% of our annual income or more.
 
PeteEU said:
LOL it is the right that is becoming more and more authoritarian and has been for decades. Everything from denying rights to minorities to GITMO and the Patriot Act.. all acts by the American Taliban Right.
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What rights are we denying to minorities? Or are you thinking of the Jim Crow laws in the past, passed by democrats and enforced by democrats?
 
SocialDemocrat said:
Political correctness is not a real issue.

Bizarre accusation coming from someone who identifies with the party that signed the PATRIOT Act into law.
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You mean that Patriot Act that "Hussein" Obama expanded and extended?
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Well, let's see. The left doesn't want the government to intrude on women's lives when it comes to abortion, the left wants the police to stop making unnecessary arrests, much of the left opposed the NSA surveillance program and the list continues. So no, the left is not getting more authoritarian.
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Then we can ignore the obamacare health insurance mandate? Thanks!
 
Ockham said:
Is this a hypothetical? Define "race baiting".
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To put it simply, race-baiting is referring to race in such a way that it's obviously derogatory to that race, but doing so in a way that gives the speaker "wriggle room" to say "Oh, that's not what I meant at all!"

How about some examples from Rush Limbaugh? I didn't provide links - they're from different sites and are all easy to find. There's lots more, but this should suffice:

“Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

[To an African American female caller]: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”

"The days of them not having any power are over, and they are angry. And they want to use their power as a means of retribution. That’s what Obama’s about, gang. He’s angry, he’s gonna cut this country down to size, he’s gonna make it pay for all the multicultural mistakes that it has made, its mistreatment of minorities."

"Obama's plan is based on his inherent belief that this country was immorally and illegitimately founded by a very small minority of white Europeans who screwed everybody else since the founding to get all the money and all the goodies, and it's about time that the scales were made even. And that's what's going on here. And that's why the president is lawless, and that's why there is no prosecution of the Black Panthers for voter intimidation, because it's not possible for a minority to intimidate the white majority."

"I think Obama thinks of himself as above the job. I don't think he likes the job as much as he thought he was going to like it. I don't think he likes the White House. I think he looks at the White House as confining. I think one of the reasons all these vacations is he gets outta there. He and his wife do not like living there. To them the White House is not a great place of honor, it's a prison, and a lot of presidents have felt that it's a prison, but to them it's like some African-Americans, "Fourth of July ain't no big deal to me, yo." Well, the White House, to a lot of African-Americans, is the same thing."

"It is clear that Senator Obama has disowned his white half, that he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side."
 
Glen Contrarian said:
To put it simply, race-baiting is referring to race in such a way that it's obviously derogatory to that race, but doing so in a way that gives the speaker "wriggle room" to say "Oh, that's not what I meant at all!"

How about some examples from Rush Limbaugh? I didn't provide links - they're from different sites and are all easy to find. There's lots more, but this should suffice:

“Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

[To an African American female caller]: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”

"The days of them not having any power are over, and they are angry. And they want to use their power as a means of retribution. That’s what Obama’s about, gang. He’s angry, he’s gonna cut this country down to size, he’s gonna make it pay for all the multicultural mistakes that it has made, its mistreatment of minorities."

"Obama's plan is based on his inherent belief that this country was immorally and illegitimately founded by a very small minority of white Europeans who screwed everybody else since the founding to get all the money and all the goodies, and it's about time that the scales were made even. And that's what's going on here. And that's why the president is lawless, and that's why there is no prosecution of the Black Panthers for voter intimidation, because it's not possible for a minority to intimidate the white majority."

"I think Obama thinks of himself as above the job. I don't think he likes the job as much as he thought he was going to like it. I don't think he likes the White House. I think he looks at the White House as confining. I think one of the reasons all these vacations is he gets outta there. He and his wife do not like living there. To them the White House is not a great place of honor, it's a prison, and a lot of presidents have felt that it's a prison, but to them it's like some African-Americans, "Fourth of July ain't no big deal to me, yo." Well, the White House, to a lot of African-Americans, is the same thing."

"It is clear that Senator Obama has disowned his white half, that he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side."
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So you equate "race baiting" as you defined it with being racist?

Do you agree with the following which are also not linked but easy to find, who according to your previous post about Limbaugh, must also be racists:

- Romney wants to let the — he said in the first hundred days he’s going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, ‘unchain Wall Street.’ They’re going to put y’all back in chains.” [Joe Biden]
- “Tillis even led the effort to pass the kind of ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws that caused the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.” [Harry Reids Senate Majority PAC]
- I think race has something to do with the fact that they are not bringing up an immigration bill. I’ve heard them say to the Irish, ‘If it was you, it would be easy.’ [Nancy Pelosi]
- “A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee.” [Bill Clinton]

And how is Limbaugh the focus here? He's got a radio show... so do a lot of other people.
 
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