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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The left AND right are equivocal in some ways which are quite substantial. One of which is that they both have authoritarian tendencies.
    Which, in your view has more of these authoritarian tendencies?

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Personal attacks instead of substantive discussion? Who saw that coming?
    You're not interested in that, everyone knows you.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Which, in your view has more of these authoritarian tendencies?
    It depends on which ones you are talking to. But they are all power hungry authoritarian control freaks who can't stand anyone that they think is in their way.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    It depends on which ones you are talking to. But they are all power hungry authoritarian control freaks who can't stand anyone that they think is in their way.
    Thats a pretty generic answer but fine.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We hear from lefties how anyone who disagrees with them are racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, etc-in other words modern lefty versions of the word heretic. The left declares what speech is appropriate (PC). They force Americans to engage in interstate commerce. They have also become increasingly violent, reference the recent officer involved shootings, occupy, etc. All with no new ideas-just rhetoric to explain their policy failures.

    There have even been calls to arrest those who disagree with them on global warming... Arrest Climate-Change Deniers

    We are told (by them) that "the debate is over".



    Is the left becoming more and more (nakedly) authoritarian?
    Undeniably yes. Consider the almost 1,000 new laws liberal/progressives put on the books in California this year. From pets allowed in restaurants, to controlling how teachers and schools can respond to unruly students, the left is on, and has been on, an authoritarian juggernaut for at least the last 15-20 years.

    Hiding under the undefined and mysterious "social justice" banner, they are seeking to control society, and move it in the direction they have defined. Such manipulation requires obedience from society, and an effort to denigrate and destroy anyone who doesn't toe the line. The pejorative "deniers" label is a perfect example of this effort.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Undeniably yes. Consider the almost 1,000 new laws liberal/progressives put on the books in California this year. From pets allowed in restaurants, to controlling how teachers and schools can respond to unruly students, the left is on, and has been on, an authoritarian juggernaut for at least the last 15-20 years.

    Hiding under the undefined and mysterious "social justice" banner, they are seeking to control society, and move it in the direction they have defined. Such manipulation requires obedience from society, and an effort to denigrate and destroy anyone who doesn't toe the line. The pejorative "deniers" label is a perfect example of this effort.
    This certainly appears to be the case. I too am a California resident and its astounding the direction the left is going down. Its like they are trying to rip off an Orwell novel.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This certainly appears to be the case. I too am a California resident and its astounding the direction the left is going down. Its like they are trying to rip off an Orwell novel.
    Adding credibility to your OP, consider the fact the C.A.R.B., the evil twin to the EPA, is allowed to set environmental policy and standards that are far beyond those set on a national basis.

    Why? Because they go farther and effectively set national standards all citizens must live by, since, for example, a car company can't afford to manufacture vehicles under two different sets of standards.

    Normally, a separate set of environmental standards would not be allowed by a state, except liberals want the more controlling standards, so they allow a single state to establish what in effect becomes national policy.

    That can only be viewed as a liberal effort in a minority position imposing control on the unrepresented majority, whether they like it or not. Proof positive of their authoritarian views and objectives.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL it is the right that is becoming more and more authoritarian and has been for decades. Everything from denying rights to minorities to GITMO and the Patriot Act.. all acts by the American Taliban Right.


    It seems like race relations are as bad or worse today than at any time in the last 20 years.

    Has the current administration done anything to restrain the Patriot Act? It seems like the suing on the citizens programs have only expanded under Obama.

    GITMO is not an appropriate inclusion in the list.

    The comparison within the topic of GITMO is not how the government treats its citizens. It is how the current administration treats those that would have gone to GITMO. The current treatment is summary execution in he field, not detention.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Funny I remember Obama being against gay marriage until it was politically convenient, and re-signing the Patriot act after greatly expanding it. I think the left changed in the 1960's. If you think the American Right is at all comparable to the Taliban-you might be a lefty. How did you vote?


    Obama's changing positions are all not so much the result of Evolution as they are the result of Intelligent Design.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Considering the authoritarian nature of the American right on social and sexual issues, then yes.


    What are your examples? The laws favor the left position.

    Pro life advocates are shouted down and defamed as sexist homophobe racists.
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