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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Sounds like a very negative view.
    It's the result you would expect. Human beings as a species judge things good or bad by their own inner metric and fallible wisdom, which is based mostly on the self-interest and the demands of the present moment, not the good of all and eternity.

    "A person may think their own ways are right, but the LORD weighs the heart." (Proverbs 21:2)

    Everything about our history suggests this is true.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Copy a quote, paste it into your search bar, and google it. They're all quite genuine.

    Or is that too complicated for you?
    Based on that response, I will assume that you were pulling it out of your hat. If you can't back up what you accuse.....You should not accuse.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Based on that response, I will assume that you were pulling it out of your hat. If you can't back up what you accuse.....You should not accuse.
    In other words, either it was too complicated for you, or you are too afraid to actually look for stuff that might call your particular worldview into question.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    You mean that Patriot Act that "Hussein" Obama expanded and extended?
    "But your side did it too!" is not a legitimate justification of your position.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    "But your side did it too!" is not a legitimate justification of your position.
    Its worth noting that Obama and the left is actually worse in this regard-because they are hypocrites as well-they ran against it, cried about it-and then not only prevented its sunset but expanded it.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its worth noting that Obama and the left is actually worse in this regard-because they are hypocrites as well-they ran against it, cried about it-and then not only prevented its sunset but expanded it.
    Russ Feingold was the only Democratic senator, let alone the only senator to vote against the original PATRIOT Act, so claiming that the Democratic Party, which, according to sources you provided earlier in the thread, is not a left-wing party, actively fought against it when they were the opposition is not true. It's worth noting that is very possible for someone to politically not fit into the definitions of left-wing or right-wing.

    I'm going to engage in a circle-jerk about which party is worse on the subject of government surveillance when they are both just so terrible on the issue in question. Don't try to place the blame on Democrats for something both parties supported so you can feel okay about the fact that Republicans created the PATRIOT Act. Acknowledge the flaw within your party as I have.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Russ Feingold was the only Democratic senator, let alone the only senator to vote against the original PATRIOT Act, so claiming that the Democratic Party, which, according to sources you provided earlier in the thread, is not a left-wing party, actively fought against it when they were the opposition is not true. It's worth noting that is very possible for someone to politically not fit into the definitions of left-wing or right-wing.

    I'm going to engage in a circle-jerk about which party is worse on the subject of government surveillance when they are both just so terrible on the issue in question. Don't try to place the blame on Democrats for something both parties supported so you can feel okay about the fact that Republicans created the PATRIOT Act. Acknowledge the flaw within your party as I have.
    The head of the democrat party prevented the sunset of the Patriot act, and then expanded it. Spin that.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The head of the democrat party prevented the sunset of the Patriot act, and then expanded it. Spin that.
    Why don't you address more than one aspect of my post for once?

    Both parties are terrible on this issue. What you brought up doesn't change that.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I agree they have a long history of authoritarianism, but its getting more overt and more extreme.
    I could agree that they are more successful at accomplishing their aims. I just feel the desires are no more or less extreme.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Why don't you address more than one aspect of my post for once?

    Both parties are terrible on this issue. What you brought up doesn't change that.
    But only one side ran against it, claimed to despise it, and then renewed it. So they aren't equivocal.

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