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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    What amazes and saddens me so much as an American ideological far rightist is, how can truly the mainstream American right be so antagonized by something like Occupy Wall Street? How can you actually sit there and throw a fit all over a short-lived leftist protest in NYC after decades of never seeing ANY leftist upsurge whatsoever publicly? That sends you into a rage? Really?

    Is it so terrible that America have actual leftists out on the streets for once in the last decade? Is that so horrific? I personally think and thought at the time it was both great to see and very refreshing, and I say that as a hard American rightist. I want to see the leftists in the streets. I want to see the Nazis in the streets. I want to see the Communists in the streets. I want to see the religious nuts of all flavors in the streets. I want to see the gays in the streets, the blacks, Anonymous. It's a good thing for society for the ideologies to all have a voice. You cannot actually tell me that the suffocating totalitarianism of the GOP and DNC in America is truly something you enjoy? I think it's terrible and have always thought this.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So you equate "race baiting" as you defined it with being racist?

    Do you agree with the following which are also not linked but easy to find, who according to your previous post about Limbaugh, must also be racists:

    - Romney wants to let the — he said in the first hundred days he’s going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, ‘unchain Wall Street.’ They’re going to put y’all back in chains.” [Joe Biden]
    - “Tillis even led the effort to pass the kind of ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws that caused the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.” [Harry Reids Senate Majority PAC]
    - I think race has something to do with the fact that they are not bringing up an immigration bill. I’ve heard them say to the Irish, ‘If it was you, it would be easy.’ [Nancy Pelosi]
    - “A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee.” [Bill Clinton]

    And how is Limbaugh the focus here? He's got a radio show... so do a lot of other people.
    What's the difference? You're taking each and every one of those out of context.

    Biden's quote - when he said that to the (almost certainly not completely black) crowd in Danville, VA, did he do so in a way that could be seen as derogatory or insulting to their race? No. However, ALL of Rush's quotes were precisely that: derogatory and/or insulting.

    How you can possibly think that Reid's comment is in any way race-baiting, I don't see. There's not even an implication of race in his statement. He's referring to the LAWS that were passed, not race, not in any way at all.

    And Pelosi's quote - she's POINTING OUT possible racism by the other side...but I guess in your world, it's racist to point out racism by others.

    And then there's Clinton's quote - which was completely accurate (especially in the view of time that older men have). He was simply pointing out just how great Obama's accomplishment was.

    In other words, you're comparing apples and oranges. Rush was clearly race-baiting again and again and again and AGAIN, and in the examples you gave, the Dems were not. This is not to say that no Dems ever do - some have...but I suspect that in the modern Democratic party, none of those who have are truly movers and shakers among liberals.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Like I said, I think he's an American liberal, but not an American Leftist.
    Lol. I see what you're doing. Good job.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    What's the difference? You're taking each and every one of those out of context.
    Ah... so you're examples are 100% true while mine are taken out of context. Yeah that's about as much insincerity and intellectual dishonesty that I expected.

    Have a nice day.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    The authoritarianism is also coming out in the legislation the left passes....example Obamacare.....telling us that we must purchase health insurance, how much health insurance we must purchase and if we don't we can be fined 2% of our annual income or more.
    Indeed, and in this thread I haven't heard one leftist defend it. Its because they know its authoritarian.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    You mean that Patriot Act that "Hussein" Obama expanded and extended?
    Indeed, and after he campaigned against it. Seems that he's not only authoritarian but also hypocritical.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    What's the difference? You're taking each and every one of those out of context.

    Biden's quote - when he said that to the (almost certainly not completely black) crowd in Danville, VA, did he do so in a way that could be seen as derogatory or insulting to their race? No. However, ALL of Rush's quotes were precisely that: derogatory and/or insulting.

    How you can possibly think that Reid's comment is in any way race-baiting, I don't see. There's not even an implication of race in his statement. He's referring to the LAWS that were passed, not race, not in any way at all.

    And Pelosi's quote - she's POINTING OUT possible racism by the other side...but I guess in your world, it's racist to point out racism by others.

    And then there's Clinton's quote - which was completely accurate (especially in the view of time that older men have). He was simply pointing out just how great Obama's accomplishment was.

    In other words, you're comparing apples and oranges. Rush was clearly race-baiting again and again and again and AGAIN, and in the examples you gave, the Dems were not. This is not to say that no Dems ever do - some have...but I suspect that in the modern Democratic party, none of those who have are truly movers and shakers among liberals.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Ah... so you're examples are 100% true while mine are taken out of context. Yeah that's about as much insincerity and intellectual dishonesty that I expected.

    Have a nice day.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Ah... so you're examples are 100% true while mine are taken out of context. Yeah that's about as much insincerity and intellectual dishonesty that I expected.

    Have a nice day.
    Ah. So you're going to take the position that Rush's statement "take the bone out of your nose" to a black woman wasn't race-baiting (or outright racist), but the statements by the Dems - which I explained to you, each and every one - are race-baiting?

    Seems to me you're not just moving the goalpost - you're pretending that we liberals don't have a right to strive to reach that goalpost at all.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We hear from lefties how anyone who disagrees with them are racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, etc-in other words modern lefty versions of the word heretic. The left declares what speech is appropriate (PC). They force Americans to engage in interstate commerce. They have also become increasingly violent, reference the recent officer involved shootings, occupy, etc. All with no new ideas-just rhetoric to explain their policy failures.

    There have even been calls to arrest those who disagree with them on global warming... Arrest Climate-Change Deniers

    We are told (by them) that "the debate is over".



    Is the left becoming more and more (nakedly) authoritarian?
    Yes, they are.
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