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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We hear from lefties how anyone who disagrees with them are racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, etc-in other words modern lefty versions of the word heretic. The left declares what speech is appropriate (PC). They force Americans to engage in interstate commerce. They have also become increasingly violent, reference the recent officer involved shootings, occupy, etc.
    Yeah, why should us lefties call people racists when they commit racist acts? And why should we call someone sexist if they act sexist? And why should we call someone homophobic when they act homophobic?

    All with no new ideas-just rhetoric to explain their policy failures.
    Hm. Let me see here. YOUR boy Bush left us with two wars and the Great Recession. Obama's gotten us out of both wars and right now we're still in the middle of the longest streak of positive private sector job growth in ALL AMERICAN HISTORY! Yeah, we're real failures.

    There have even been calls to arrest those who disagree with them on global warming... Arrest Climate-Change Deniers
    Yeah, shame on us for actually listening to, you know, SCIENTISTS.

    We are told (by them) that "the debate is over".
    For anyone who doesn't think that a right-wing politician knows better than an actual honest-to-goodness climatologist, YES, the debate IS over.

    Is the left becoming more and more (nakedly) authoritarian?
    Hm. Lemme see here. What happens to a right-wing politician who says global warming is real? Or who says that gays have a right to marry and have all the rights thereof? Or who says that supply-side economics don't work?

    In other words, just as you want to throw the 'authoritarian' accusation, the same applies every bit as strongly to your own side...and it's due to the polarization of the Dems and the GOP in terms of ever-increasingly liberal and conservative...which has not to my knowledge ever happened before in American history.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Yeah, why should us lefties call people racists when they commit racist acts? And why should we call someone sexist if they act sexist? And why should we call someone homophobic when they act homophobic?
    If only the actual acts were a requirement to lefties calling people all of those things.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If only the actual acts were a requirement to lefties calling people all of those things.
    How much race-baiting does it take by a conservative pundit - say, Rush Limbaugh for example - before you think one could call him racist?
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    How much race-baiting does it take by a conservative pundit - say, Rush Limbaugh for example - before you think one could call him racist?
    Is this a hypothetical? Define "race baiting".
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We hear from lefties how anyone who disagrees with them are racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, etc-in other words modern lefty versions of the word heretic. The left declares what speech is appropriate (PC). They force Americans to engage in interstate commerce. They have also become increasingly violent, reference the recent officer involved shootings, occupy, etc. All with no new ideas-just rhetoric to explain their policy failures.

    There have even been calls to arrest those who disagree with them on global warming... Arrest Climate-Change Deniers

    We are told (by them) that "the debate is over".



    Is the left becoming more and more (nakedly) authoritarian?
    The authoritarianism is also coming out in the legislation the left passes....example Obamacare.....telling us that we must purchase health insurance, how much health insurance we must purchase and if we don't we can be fined 2% of our annual income or more.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL it is the right that is becoming more and more authoritarian and has been for decades. Everything from denying rights to minorities to GITMO and the Patriot Act.. all acts by the American Taliban Right.
    What rights are we denying to minorities? Or are you thinking of the Jim Crow laws in the past, passed by democrats and enforced by democrats?

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Political correctness is not a real issue.

    Bizarre accusation coming from someone who identifies with the party that signed the PATRIOT Act into law.
    You mean that Patriot Act that "Hussein" Obama expanded and extended?

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Well, let's see. The left doesn't want the government to intrude on women's lives when it comes to abortion, the left wants the police to stop making unnecessary arrests, much of the left opposed the NSA surveillance program and the list continues. So no, the left is not getting more authoritarian.
    Then we can ignore the obamacare health insurance mandate? Thanks!

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Is this a hypothetical? Define "race baiting".
    To put it simply, race-baiting is referring to race in such a way that it's obviously derogatory to that race, but doing so in a way that gives the speaker "wriggle room" to say "Oh, that's not what I meant at all!"

    How about some examples from Rush Limbaugh? I didn't provide links - they're from different sites and are all easy to find. There's lots more, but this should suffice:

    “Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

    [To an African American female caller]: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”

    "The days of them not having any power are over, and they are angry. And they want to use their power as a means of retribution. That’s what Obama’s about, gang. He’s angry, he’s gonna cut this country down to size, he’s gonna make it pay for all the multicultural mistakes that it has made, its mistreatment of minorities."

    "Obama's plan is based on his inherent belief that this country was immorally and illegitimately founded by a very small minority of white Europeans who screwed everybody else since the founding to get all the money and all the goodies, and it's about time that the scales were made even. And that's what's going on here. And that's why the president is lawless, and that's why there is no prosecution of the Black Panthers for voter intimidation, because it's not possible for a minority to intimidate the white majority."

    "I think Obama thinks of himself as above the job. I don't think he likes the job as much as he thought he was going to like it. I don't think he likes the White House. I think he looks at the White House as confining. I think one of the reasons all these vacations is he gets outta there. He and his wife do not like living there. To them the White House is not a great place of honor, it's a prison, and a lot of presidents have felt that it's a prison, but to them it's like some African-Americans, "Fourth of July ain't no big deal to me, yo." Well, the White House, to a lot of African-Americans, is the same thing."

    "It is clear that Senator Obama has disowned his white half, that he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side."
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    To put it simply, race-baiting is referring to race in such a way that it's obviously derogatory to that race, but doing so in a way that gives the speaker "wriggle room" to say "Oh, that's not what I meant at all!"

    How about some examples from Rush Limbaugh? I didn't provide links - they're from different sites and are all easy to find. There's lots more, but this should suffice:

    “Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

    [To an African American female caller]: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”

    "The days of them not having any power are over, and they are angry. And they want to use their power as a means of retribution. That’s what Obama’s about, gang. He’s angry, he’s gonna cut this country down to size, he’s gonna make it pay for all the multicultural mistakes that it has made, its mistreatment of minorities."

    "Obama's plan is based on his inherent belief that this country was immorally and illegitimately founded by a very small minority of white Europeans who screwed everybody else since the founding to get all the money and all the goodies, and it's about time that the scales were made even. And that's what's going on here. And that's why the president is lawless, and that's why there is no prosecution of the Black Panthers for voter intimidation, because it's not possible for a minority to intimidate the white majority."

    "I think Obama thinks of himself as above the job. I don't think he likes the job as much as he thought he was going to like it. I don't think he likes the White House. I think he looks at the White House as confining. I think one of the reasons all these vacations is he gets outta there. He and his wife do not like living there. To them the White House is not a great place of honor, it's a prison, and a lot of presidents have felt that it's a prison, but to them it's like some African-Americans, "Fourth of July ain't no big deal to me, yo." Well, the White House, to a lot of African-Americans, is the same thing."

    "It is clear that Senator Obama has disowned his white half, that he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side."
    So you equate "race baiting" as you defined it with being racist?

    Do you agree with the following which are also not linked but easy to find, who according to your previous post about Limbaugh, must also be racists:

    - Romney wants to let the — he said in the first hundred days he’s going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, ‘unchain Wall Street.’ They’re going to put y’all back in chains.” [Joe Biden]
    - “Tillis even led the effort to pass the kind of ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws that caused the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.” [Harry Reids Senate Majority PAC]
    - I think race has something to do with the fact that they are not bringing up an immigration bill. I’ve heard them say to the Irish, ‘If it was you, it would be easy.’ [Nancy Pelosi]
    - “A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee.” [Bill Clinton]

    And how is Limbaugh the focus here? He's got a radio show... so do a lot of other people.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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