View Poll Results: Is the American left becoming more and more authoritarian?

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    A centrist is someone in the middle of the spectrum, holding positions from both sides.
    Thats correct, but not extreme positions. Obama simply is not a centrist, reference the last mid term.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Only to the extreme left fringe. But hey, at least you aren't claiming he's right wing, thats always amusing to see.
    Obama is an American liberal that is often forced to run counter to his inclinations, like most Presidents. He's not an extreme Left-winger, nor particularly a centrist. He was somewhat prevented from moving forward with closing Guantanamo, couldn't quite pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan as quickly as he would have desired without significant consequences both at home and abroad, if he could have I think he would have pushed harder for single-payer healthcare, and so forth.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Obama is an American liberal that is often forced to run counter to his inclinations, like most Presidents. He's not an extreme Left-winger, nor particularly a centrist. He was somewhat prevented from moving forward with closing Guantanamo, couldn't quite pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan as quickly as he would have desired without significant consequences both at home and abroad, if he could have I think he would have pushed harder for single-payer healthcare, and so forth.
    So do we agree that he is indeed a left winger (even if not extreme)?

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats correct, but not extreme positions. Obama simply is not a centrist, reference the last mid term.
    When a policy has been implemented for nearly a century, it can no longer be considered politically extreme. Bailing out big corporations/banks, starting pointless wars, drug prohibition, central banking, growing the power of the executive branch, etc. has been the status quo for a while now.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So do we agree that he is indeed a left winger (even if not extreme)?
    Alright, let's parse this out further.

    In terms of American spectrum, Obama is a liberal. However, in America a "leftist" would start to be more of Bernie Sanders rather than an Edward Kennedy.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So do we agree that he is indeed a left winger (even if not extreme)?
    So what if he is?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Alright, let's parse this out further.

    In terms of American spectrum, Obama is a liberal. However, in America a "leftist" would start to be more of Bernie Sanders rather than an Edward Kennedy.
    So hes not particularly centrist, not far left, and not right wing. I'd say that leaves him as a solid leftist.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So hes not particularly centrist, not far left, and not right wing. I'd say that leaves him as a solid leftist.
    A solid leftist would tend to be a Democratic Socialist like Sanders, which Obama is not. Obama is just a liberal who had to make compromised positions in the face of opposition.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    When a policy has been implemented for nearly a century, it can no longer be considered politically extreme. Bailing out big corporations/banks, starting pointless wars, drug prohibition, central banking, growing the power of the executive branch, etc. has been the status quo for a while now.
    It certainly can. Anarchists were extreme a century ago, and they still are. Its amazing watching the hoops you jump through. Obama is a lefty, not a centrist-just own it.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So what if he is?
    If he is you better tell your buddies trying with a straight face to argue he's a centrist or even right winger. Its amusing.

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