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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
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    How would you know if it's a thug. It could be a teenager trying to stay warm while walking to school or a young adult walking to work. Not everyone that wears a hoodie is a thug. I wear one on cold mornings when I go feed the animals.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    After a time patterns emerge. You can't hide this behind "a few nutters" or moral equivalence.
    When I said "a few nutters", I was indicating that no pattern has emerged.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    What a crock.
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    Nanny states are mostly red states.
    Evidently, neither of you have been to New York, California, or anywhere in Europe in recent years.
    Last edited by Gathomas88; 01-05-15 at 11:36 AM.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL it is the right that is becoming more and more authoritarian and has been for decades. Everything from denying rights to minorities to GITMO and the Patriot Act.. all acts by the American Taliban Right.
    Hmmm....

    -Obama has actively executed American citizens with out trial
    -Obama has actively sought (but apparently not used) executive powers to suspend the writ of Habeus Corpus
    -Obama has sought to end the long standing ministierial exception which prevents government involvement in internal church, temple and mosque matters (Obama lost 9-0 at the US Supreme Court).
    -Obama has attempted to define "free" birth control from a specific source as a "right"- and then ordered churches to violate their own teaching by fullfilling this non existent "right".
    -Obama appointed a justice to the US Supreme Court who claims that private ownership of weapons is not an individual right.
    -Obama has attempted to merge the judicial and legislative branch into one via very broad use of executive orders.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Nanny states are mostly red states.



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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Insightful, I'd consider myself towards the libertarian side. I think the left is certainly tripping over itself in its sprint towards authoritarianism.
    Well, it's seems to be in character.

    Consistently the left comes across as arrogant and appear to feel themselves to be the smartest people in the room, hence their judgement and ideas are far more valuable and important than anyone else's, so much so that they think are their 'good ideas' (*cough*) need to be mandatory. Definitely a more authoritarian attitude.

    That's not to say that the same isn't being done by other groups for their agendas. The observation has been made that the government as a whole as become more authoritarian, and I'd have to agree.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I think you need to learn how to distinguish between "the left" and "a few nutters on the left" and even then, I don't even recall a few nutters on the left trying to "strictly regulate" anything you listed. I can't even imagine anyone trying to "strictly regulate" what people think given that we don't have the technology to even do that.
    Ya huh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The left also wants to strictly regulate what the average citizen is allowed to own,
    Opposition to the Second Amendment ringing any bells?

    how much money they're allowed to make (and subsequently keep)
    Obsession with "progressive" taxation, and constant complaints whenever someone makes an amount they presume to be "too much?"

    what they are allowed to spend that money on
    Mandatory pay-ins?

    what they're allowed to say in public
    "Hate Speech" laws?

    what they're allowed to think
    "Political correctness," and the Left's desire in recent years to force corporate heads and other high-profile individuals out of their positions simply for privately holding political opinions which they find to be non-"politically correct?"

    how they're allowed to educate their children (or whether they really even have a 'right' to their children in the first place)
    Ask the average ideological Left Winger for their opinion on either Homeschooling or Private Schools. Many European Leftists find such ideas to be nothing less than unthinkable.

    You'll also find that Left Wingers generally tend to defend services like CPS when they seize children from their families a lot more often than anyone on the Right as well.

    and what they are allowed to eat and drink on a voluntary basis.
    Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the kinds of laws states like New York and California have passed in these regards in recent years?

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Ya huh.

    Opposition to the Second Amendment ringing any bells?

    Obsession with "progressive" taxation, and constant complaints whenever someone makes an amount they presume to be "too much?"

    Mandatory pay-ins?

    "Hate Speech" laws?

    "Political correctness," and the Left's desire in recent years to force corporate heads and other high-profile individuals out of their positions simply for privately holding political opinions which they find to be non-"politically correct?"

    Ask the average ideological Left Winger for their opinion on either Homeschooling or Private Schools. Many European Leftists find such ideas to be nothing less than unthinkable.

    You'll also find that Left Wingers generally tend to defend services like CPS when they seize children from their families a lot more often than anyone on the Right as well.

    Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the kinds of laws states like New York and California have passed in these regards in recent years?
    1. I don't view the 2nd amendment the same way you do, but I can see how you would view that as "strict regulation", so I'll concede that one.

    2. Only a few nutters actually want to legislate salary caps. Invalid example. Progressive taxation isn't a "strict regulation" and it isn't a new concept so it isn't an example of the left becoming "more" anything as this thread is arguing. Another invalid example.

    3. If you're talking about payroll deductions, they don't regulate what people are allowed to spend money on. They regulate what people aren't allowed to avoid spending money on. And, like progressive taxation, it isn't new so it isn't an example of "more". Another invalid example.

    4. Only a few nutters want to make hate speech laws. Another invalid example.

    5. "Political correctness" is social, not legal, pressure. And the right participates in it as well (e.g. "enhanced interrogation" instead of "torture" or calling Americans who disagree with them "un-American"). People from the right have also tried to force pro-gay businesses to pull ads or otherwise stop expressing themselves. Another invalid example.

    6. I know many people on the left - probably many more than you do. They don't want any more "strict regulations" on schooling than ever have, so that claim is invalid as well. As far as people on the left supporting CPS, I've seen more people on the right support actual eugenics so give me a break on that one. Another invalid example.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Huh? u joking right?
    Actually no, not at all. I tried to find the study done just before the 2012 election but can't find it now.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Actually no, not at all. I tried to find the study done just before the 2012 election but can't find it now.


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