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Thread: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And you would be bitching about him not reinstating the law and how insecure the US has become and all that political bull****.

    Also it was Bush who made most of the sunset provisions permanent in 2006. The remaining sunset provisions have to be renewed once in a while and Obama did that yes. But most the Patriot Act is law, and does not need renewal thanks to.... Bush. This means Obama even if he wanted to scrap it, could not.
    Sorry, Obama ran against it-and then renewed and expanded it. At least Bush owned it.

    Now back to authoritarian leftists, why are they moving that way?

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Will the stalking ever stop? Thats what I'd like to know.
    Gotta hand it to you ... that takes some nerve.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The left also wants to strictly regulate what the average citizen is allowed to own, how much money they're allowed to make (and subsequently keep), what they are allowed to spend that money on, what they're allowed to say in public, what they're allowed to think, how they're allowed to educate their children (or whether they really even have a 'right' to their children in the first place), and what they are allowed to eat and drink on a voluntary basis.

    You know... All for the greater "collective" good of keeping their harebrained vision of "nanny state utopia" workable, of course.
    What a crock.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The left also wants to strictly regulate what the average citizen is allowed to own, how much money they're allowed to make (and subsequently keep), what they are allowed to spend that money on, what they're allowed to say in public, what they're allowed to think, how they're allowed to educate their children (or whether they really even have a 'right' to their children in the first place), and what they are allowed to eat and drink on a voluntary basis.

    You know... All for the greater "collective" good of keeping their harebrained vision of "nanny state utopia" workable, of course.
    Nanny states are mostly red states.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    What a crock.
    Kobie, I have a dream that one day you will substantively discuss issues instead of dropping lame one liners.
    Perhaps the basement is more your thing?

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Kobie, I have a dream that one day you will substantively discuss issues instead of dropping lame one liners.
    Perhaps the basement is more your thing?
    I have a dream that you'll leave me the hell alone.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I have a dream that you'll leave me the hell alone.
    Lol, Kobie, he ignored an extensive post destroying his assertions. He played it off as "dancing". It's a classic symptom of someone who has nothing to add to the conversation. You really should stop taking him so seriously when he gets like this.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I have a dream that you'll leave me the hell alone.
    This explains why you entered this thread.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, Kobie, he ignored an extensive post destroying his assertions. He played it off as "dancing". It's a classic symptom of someone who has nothing to add to the conversation. You really should stop taking him so seriously when he gets like this.
    I don't.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I don't.
    I think you should ask him what the standards for authoritarianism are and to show examples of it. You'll find that most of what he deems "authoritarian" were laws produced by his side and mostly overturned by the very left he deems authoritarian. Hell, if the Patriot Act has been gutted it was because of the left. If waterboarding is under scrutiny, it's because of the left. If the NSA wiretappings are openly questioned, it's because of the left. The right was pretty complacent about these measures when they were in power. Remember, questioning the country's laws was aiding and abetting a few years ago.

    He agrees that "the left" wants to tell people how much they should earn. Yet he brags about making money thanks to California's laws on overtime. He agrees that the left is telling people how to "educate their children" but then ignores that the reason people can start charter schools, homeschooling etc. is the work of organizations like the leftist ACLU. He also seems to agree that people are being told what to eat. However, he benefits daily from many of California's regulations on health. I took his measure a few weeks ago on that Cuba thread and realized he says things to get attention. Nothing more.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 01-05-15 at 08:29 AM.
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