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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    A majority of Americans thinks that people should be held without trial for decades without any legally exercisable right to disagree with their captivity (hallmark of the Bill of Rights). They can be set free 12 years later if it turns out they had no terrorist connections or knowledge. Basically everyone outside the left believes that.

    so you being a "centrist" believes that? I am no leftist and I sure do not



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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We hear from lefties how anyone who disagrees with them are racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, etc-in other words modern lefty versions of the word heretic. The left declares what speech is appropriate (PC). They force Americans to engage in interstate commerce. They have also become increasingly violent, reference the recent officer involved shootings, occupy, etc. All with no new ideas-just rhetoric to explain their policy failures.

    There have even been calls to arrest those who disagree with them on global warming... Arrest Climate-Change Deniers

    We are told (by them) that "the debate is over".



    Is the left becoming more and more (nakedly) authoritarian?
    I think the roles are becomming Authoritarian and Libertarian. Bumping out the more common political beliefs for new, crazy, and different ones. I think in the future there will be just two different sides. Are you libertarian or Authoritarian? Indeed I am writing a novel about this very idea.

    I'm already beginning to see that on the internet and in certain circles they look at you weirdly if you describe yourself as anything but. If you don't fit their already chosen definitions of what you believe, they will pick it for you. Oh you are a RINO. Oh you are a Neocon. Like your selections up there. I usually consider right leaning to mean conservative, which I am not. Left leaning is liberal. These days leftists are radicals and so are conservatives. So going forward there will be Authoritarians, Libertarians, and Radicals. It won't happen overnight, but maybe as a generation gets replaced by those that have grown up with the internet.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    But I didn't ask you about Conservatives. I asked about liberals, what is your honest assessment of the left in general? Is it becoming more authoritarian?
    You asked about "the left". And by asking about one side, it is inferred that they are more authoritarian than the other side.

    And, you are getting your a** handed to you.

    As usual.
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    I think the roles are becomming Authoritarian and Libertarian. Bumping out the more common political beliefs for new, crazy, and different ones. I think in the future there will be just two different sides. Are you libertarian or Authoritarian? Indeed I am writing a novel about this very idea.

    I'm already beginning to see that on the internet and in certain circles they look at you weirdly if you describe yourself as anything but. If you don't fit their already chosen definitions of what you believe, they will pick it for you. Oh you are a RINO. Oh you are a Neocon. Like your selections up there. I usually consider right leaning to mean conservative, which I am not. Left leaning is liberal. These days leftists are radicals and so are conservatives. So going forward there will be Authoritarians, Libertarians, and Radicals. It won't happen overnight, but maybe as a generation gets replaced by those that have grown up with the internet.
    Insightful, I'd consider myself towards the libertarian side. I think the left is certainly tripping over itself in its sprint towards authoritarianism.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    You asked about "the left". And by asking about one side, it is inferred that they are more authoritarian than the other side.
    Flawed logic.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you being a "centrist" believes that? I am no leftist and I sure do not
    The importance of the individual's inward belief is exaggerated in American society. The agglomeration of collective priorities and each individual's person contribution to it is what provides that individual's moral and ideological measure.

    What good does it do if you don't believe in indefinite detention or prisoners extraneous to constitutionally-governed prisons if every single vote or donation you've ever done ultimately adds in support of such a policy?
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The democrat party wasn't even mentioned in the op, Kobie. And why are you stalking me?
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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    The importance of the individual's inward belief is exaggerated in American society. The agglomeration of collective priorities and each individual's person contribution to it is what provides that individual's moral and ideological measure.

    What good does it do if you don't believe in indefinite detention or prisoners extraneous to constitutionally-governed prisons if every single vote or donation you've ever done ultimately adds in support of such a policy?
    that is not the yes or no answer my question required



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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Will the stalking ever stop? Thats what I'd like to know.

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    Re: Is the left becoming more and more authoritarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is not the yes or no answer my question required
    It's easy to see (and feel) the temptation of denying suspected terrorists - particularly of the ISIS variety - the legal right to disagree with their captivity, but it doesn't take much self-awareness to see that acting on those impulses is caving into evil.

    But neither wing of Americans politics is limited to what goes on inside my head.
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