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    Re: Sarah Palin Posts Photos of Son Trig Using Family Dog as a Step Stool

    Again, I am not so much as angered or annoyed by Palin's actual photos as I am by the absurdity of your arguments, excuses, and what if's. You're full of excuses. It doesn't matter if it's Palin or anybody else who is a public figure. If you post something in a public forum and your posts have been discussed on the national news, then you should expect people to talk about your photo including how you handled the situation beyond that photo.

    I don't expect her publicly chastise her children. That's ridiculous and would only serve to humiliate and embarrass the child.

    Instead, I am saying if Palin thought it was wrong he stood on the dog (as you suggest) and admonished him private (as you suggest), then she could simply express her opinion publicly such as, "I wasn't happy to see Trig standing on the family dog, but as a mom, I thought it was cute and had to take a picture and shared it." And that would end the entire controversy.

    That would be reasonable. That would be acceptable IMO. I don't think think she needs to do or say anything beyond that. She doesn't need make a huge ass apology on FB, donate money to an animal shelter, or chastise Trig publicly.

    But everything you suggest as a possibility doesn't seem to reflect her actual opinion on Trig standing on the dog, and we see that in her response and management of this issue on her FB page. And again, I don't care so much that Palin isn't managing this very well. It's expected of her IMO. What I find more irritating than the actual photos is your excuse upon excuse and never ending stream of hypotheticals and more excuses.

    Sorry if that's offensive, but I am being honest.




    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    That bold and underlined part right there. They're criticizing her for an APPEARANCE. They don't know that she did or didn't chastise Trig. I find that to be foolish. Maybe she didn't do so because she feels that chastising a child openly isn't the correct thing to do? I know that for me, I will take my kids aside and privately chastise them. I don't embarrass them by openly doing such.

    Plain fact of that matter is that they are assuming that she didn't. The only thing I have done is provide examples of possibilities where she probably did and why she might not have posted such a chastisement on the interwebz. Why have I done this? Because everyone else seems to be focused on the negatives so I'm given options that they either A: didn't consider or B: are too partisan to consider.



    Which concerns is that? I do have CRS so you might need to remind me but I don't recall giving any concerns. I've given examples of what might have occurred or not occurred. But I don't remember any concerns.



    Why don't any of my examples pan out? Because she didn't post something that you thought she should have? All for the sake of appearances? That seems just as silly to me as you seem to think my arguments do.

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    Re: Sarah Palin Posts Photos of Son Trig Using Family Dog as a Step Stool

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    That is just nonsensical to the extreme.

    1. if this would have been from a nobody it most likely would not have made the media but if the child of Obama had done this, the child of Brad Pitt/Jolie would have done this it would have been just as big an issue for most people, just as big an issue as it is from Palin.

    2. you are totally lying when you are saying that only people who hate Palin would give a crap about this photo, I do not hate Palin but I give a crap about this picture and many people feel the same way.

    Maybe it is the other way around, only people who love Palin are stating that this photo is not an issue because out of a misplaced love/respect for Palin they are justifying or making this less of an issue because of Palin, not because of what has happened on these pictures.



    Well, stepping on a dog is unacceptable. Riding on dogs is most often not the right thing to do, pulling of tails, giving them people's candy/chocolate etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. is not the right thing. Just because you think Palin is being attacked for who she is rather than what her child did, does not mean that what her child did was right or what you state is what children do to animals.

    Children should be taught not to pull ears, tails, give them candy and all other bad things do to pets, it does not need to be minimized because you like Palin.

    Palin might be the greatest woman on earth to you, but that does not mean that this is acceptable behavior.

    If someone like Wim Kok, a man who I respect greatly as a great leader and politician would have posted something like this on facebook I would have crucified/been very negative towards him.

    This is not a political issue about Palin, this is an animal welfare issue and nothing more.
    I seriously doubt you would have given a **** if the photo had no name attached to it.You die hard anti-Palin extremists have a unhealthy obsession and hatred of the woman. So stop pretending that it is something other than those things why you care. Again if child was hurting the dog the dog will let the child know.Kids do this sort of thing all over the country with large pets.The most tolerant kid friendly pet will not put up with a child seriously hurting it. They will bite the child, run away, growl, yelp or something else.
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    Re: Sarah Palin Posts Photos of Son Trig Using Family Dog as a Step Stool

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I seriously doubt you would have given a **** if the photo had no name attached to it.You die hard anti-Palin extremists have a unhealthy obsession and hatred of the woman. So stop pretending that it is something other than those things why you care. Again if child was hurting the dog the dog will let the child know.Kids do this sort of thing all over the country with large pets.The most tolerant kid friendly pet will not put up with a child seriously hurting it. They will bite the child, run away, growl, yelp or something else.
    You're wasting your time.

    These Palin-haters will never admit that it's about them. They will come up with the dumbest excuses to deflect...to make it about her...when the reality is that she hasn't done anything different than any other person, politician or talking head. It's all about being on the Hate-Palin bandwagon.

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    Re: Sarah Palin Posts Photos of Son Trig Using Family Dog as a Step Stool

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I seriously doubt you would have given a **** if the photo had no name attached to it.You die hard anti-Palin extremists have a unhealthy obsession and hatred of the woman. So stop pretending that it is something other than those things why you care. Again if child was hurting the dog the dog will let the child know.Kids do this sort of thing all over the country with large pets.The most tolerant kid friendly pet will not put up with a child seriously hurting it. They will bite the child, run away, growl, yelp or something else.
    It was a conservative who started the thread.
    Why do you think that is the case ?
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    Re: Sarah Palin Posts Photos of Son Trig Using Family Dog as a Step Stool

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It was a conservative who started the thread.
    Why do you think that is the case ?
    Plenty of conservatives have joined the Hate-Palin herd.
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    Re: Sarah Palin Posts Photos of Son Trig Using Family Dog as a Step Stool

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It was a conservative who started the thread.
    Why do you think that is the case ?
    Many die hard republican party-tards think she caused McRino to loose in 2008.
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    Re: Sarah Palin Posts Photos of Son Trig Using Family Dog as a Step Stool

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I seriously doubt you would have given a **** if the photo had no name attached to it.You die hard anti-Palin extremists have a unhealthy obsession and hatred of the woman. So stop pretending that it is something other than those things why you care. Again if child was hurting the dog the dog will let the child know.Kids do this sort of thing all over the country with large pets.The most tolerant kid friendly pet will not put up with a child seriously hurting it. They will bite the child, run away, growl, yelp or something else.
    Die hard Palin extremists? I am sorry but that is rich coming from what I would expect is a die hard Palin lover.

    Are you except incredibly rude (you call me a liar) also incredibly bad at reading. I do not hate Palin, I think she is a dumb woman with extremist views who is totally unfit to run the United States or the free world, but I do not hate her. I know, hating someone you disagree with is very normal in the US political system but as said I do not live in such a system, I don't even hate Geert Wilders, a person who's political opinions I dislike even more than most of Palin's political views.

    I care about dogs, I care about children but I do not care for pictures of children who stand on the back of a dog. Clear enough for you. I could care less if this was a picture posted by the dalai lama himself, there is no justification for standing on a dog's back like that. I do not care if this was the son of Palin or the child of Elvis Presley when she was young, wrong is wrong. And I was not aware that you a mind reader for dogs nowadays. Because there is no way on earth you can tell from a picture whether or not it is uncomfortable for the dog because allowing it does not mean it is not hurting the dog, just not hurting it enough to growl or bite the child is not "not hurting".

    I do not know if the dog hurt, but you cannot state for certain that it did not hurt. Standing on a dog is stupid and the stupidity here is not from the child (it probably does not know it is not supposed to) but of the parents and I could give a flying crap whether or not that was Palin or Obama or any other person.
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    Re: Sarah Palin Posts Photos of Son Trig Using Family Dog as a Step Stool

    X factor was against standing on a dog.
    I voted for Palin in this poll and supported her posting the picture in my original post.

    But since then, she's now trashing Obama for eating dogs !

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    Re: Sarah Palin Posts Photos of Son Trig Using Family Dog as a Step Stool

    And my original post had compassion for a parent of a Down Syndrome child and the joy Palin felt seeing him smile ad 'step up'.
    Since I am not in her shoes, she gets the benefit from me.

    But not for her later comments trashing Obama for eating dogs.

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    Re: Sarah Palin Posts Photos of Son Trig Using Family Dog as a Step Stool

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And my original post had compassion for a parent of a Down Syndrome child and the joy Palin felt seeing him smile ad 'step up'.
    Since I am not in her shoes, she gets the benefit from me.

    But not for her later comments trashing Obama for eating dogs.
    Oh...Obama has been a charter member of the Palin-Haters, too.

    But, face it...the Palin-Hater herd started on HER the day she was nominated for VP, so talking about what SHE said about Obama is pathetic.
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