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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    As in the fact Homeland security has never issued less than a yellow alert since 911, never green.

    By maintaining a fear, you aggravate the fear, and create monsters in the minds of the people. FFS you have armed militia on Canadian border crossings brandishing assault rifles because of the "war on terror", in the likely event [to them] they may be overwhelmed by maple syrup at any instant.

    Your emails and texts are being monitored, your phone calls tracked in the deepest penetration of civil rights in the history of democracy, putting to shame the spying China does on its people. All in the name of "terrorists" who never die off, never reduce in numbers, always loose battles, but never get conquered.

    That's a perfect creation for the Military Industrial Complex, guaranteeing profits for decades already with projections it will take four or five more. In other words some people's entire lifetimes.

    What better gift to the people who financed the politicians than to ensure public oriented profits for nearly a century?
    I am not trying to discount any of this, just trying to be sure about equating all the different motivations for loss of life as all being signs of terrorism.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    No doubt, but that being said it's a little difficult for me not to visualize the reverse: a foreign government determines that elements within our country have harmed its own nation, so it in turns comes into our land and starts bombing targets, legitimate as well as civilian casualties, otherwise known as "collateral damage." How are we going to feel about that foreign military? Are we going to be grateful toward it or afraid of it? Are we going to give them a pass in the understanding that wars are wars and collateral damage is just part of the package?
    I see such a role reversal as improbable, since the US could and would squash such elements (assuming, of course, that the foreign government isn't openly hostile with us). Nevertheless, I agree that war is an ugly thing, and it's too common that the impact upon civilians is a mere talking point in discussions about military action overseas rather something that people empathize with.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    It's also ****ing pointless. It was almost 70 years ago and has absolutely NO bearing on US foreign policy today other than a likely deeper respect word wide for what the bomb can do.

    I had a very good friend who was a child in Japan during the war. Neither he nor I ever argued that neither city was a legitimate target, but we both have argued that the second bombing was not needed, the FDR typically acted out of incompetence.
    FDR was dead for months when the bombs were dropped.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Consider Shock and Awe that started the invasion of Iraq and the various drones we have launched.
    Precision Guided Munitions, including drones, are the opposite of terrorist weapons. They enable an unprecedented reduction in civilian casualties and collateral damage.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Ok. So YOU tell me how we stop ISIS from beheading women and children and generally creating misery for millions, WITHOUT using violence. I'm all ears.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Precision Guided Munitions, including drones, are the opposite of terrorist weapons. They enable an unprecedented reduction in civilian casualties and collateral damage.
    So, you're saying these guided drones didn't terrorize the populous? I think that's a bit far fetched.


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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So, you're saying these guided drones didn't terrorize the populous? I think that's a bit far fetched.
    "Terrorism" is not the same thing as understandable fear in a civilian population in a war zone.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    "Terrorism" is not the same thing as understandable fear in a civilian population in a war zone.
    Baghdad wasn't in a war zone before Shock and Awe.


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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    The U.S. is the number 1 terrorist planning, funding, facilitating, and all things terrorist in the world.

    Britain is #2, lol...

    Good grief, is there nothing that the U.S. doesn't have it's fingers in trying to stir crap up?? Even without getting into false flags (9/11, Boston Bombing, Sandy Hook, Fast and Furious, Britains 7-7, et al), the U.S. and Britain are constantly messing around with terrorist groups - funding this one, arming that one, protecting the next one, running guns, running drugs, it's unbelievable the amount of crap the U.S. and Britain are into.

    I was watching an Arab News show that had 2 U.S. terror analysts as guests - they were talking about the fact that pictures had surfaced of John McCain meeting with 2 terrorist leaders in Jordan - one of the terrorists was presently listed on our terror want list!!!

    Seriously, it's just unbelievable how out of control the U.S. and Britain are.

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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    The US is no angel in its history of foreign relations but using the most sensible definition of the term (not the one the media or ignorant people throw around), no. Terrorism is when a person/group utilizes terror against a population in order to bring about political change in that country. Through such terror, the population demands that the government change its policies to fit those of the terrorists' demands. Simple violence or unlawful acts does not qualify as terrorism despite what many here seems to believe.
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