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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Consider Shock and Awe that started the invasion of Iraq and the various drones we have launched.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    But, they live in Pakistan so that means they have to be terrorists. They deserve it, right?
    No, but you can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs, y'know what I mean?

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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Its not terrorism if you drop bombs from planes.
    If we randomly dropped area-of-effect bombs on civilian populations, that would be terrorism. Since we use extremely precise bombs against specific targets, it doesn't qualify.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    If we randomly dropped area-of-effect bombs on civilian populations, that would be terrorism. Since we use extremely precise bombs against specific targets, it doesn't qualify.
    nobody has yet breached the question of ... does state terrorism even exist?
    so far, it does not... not even the do-gooders at the UN recognize "state terrorism".. they can't define it without making nearly all countries on earth "state terrorists"

    everyone recognizes state support of terrorism, but not state terrorism in itself.


    so basically put, there are no terrorist states on this earth, ergo, the USA is not a terrorist state.

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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    If we randomly dropped area-of-effect bombs on civilian populations, that would be terrorism. Since we use extremely precise bombs against specific targets, it doesn't qualify.
    Was that true when we launched Shock and Awe against Baghdad in March 2003?


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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Was that true when we launched Shock and Awe against Baghdad in March 2003?
    yes.

    deliberately targeting civilians is not a component of shock and awe.

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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Right, so because the terrorists aren't being non-violent, we shouldn't either! Last I heard the US was supposed to be an international leader, not a follower. It's precisely because ISIS are violent that we should strive to be different.



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    Ok. So YOU tell me how we stop ISIS from beheading women and children and generally creating misery for millions, WITHOUT using violence. I'm all ears.

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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I saw that John Oliver episode where local Pakistani citizens were saying they were afraid of blue skies because that's when drones would be out and about and start blowing **** up. So is the United States a terrorist nation? I don't know, but if that segment was anything to go by we're certainly terrorizing the bejeezus out of normal people over there.
    It's difficult to fight a war in a way that doesn't scare people. Fighting against an enemy that merges itself with the civilian population is doubtlessly going to frighten civilians, even if we used more accurate methods like Special Forces raids.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    It's difficult to fight a war in a way that doesn't scare people. Fighting against an enemy that merges itself with the civilian population is doubtlessly going to frighten civilians, even if we used more accurate methods like Special Forces raids.
    No doubt, but that being said it's a little difficult for me not to visualize the reverse: a foreign government determines that elements within our country have harmed its own nation, so it in turns comes into our land and starts bombing targets, legitimate as well as civilian casualties, otherwise known as "collateral damage." How are we going to feel about that foreign military? Are we going to be grateful toward it or afraid of it? Are we going to give them a pass in the understanding that wars are wars and collateral damage is just part of the package?

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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I see CORPORATISM where you compare to Catholicism, Islamism, Buddhism, Mohammedism, and absolutely YES when Corporatism and the pursuit of PROFIT results in chaos, mayhem, destructism and/or death in the name of religion. It's the same thing. I see Ukraine as Monsanto, Cargill, Chevron, Haliburton, IMF, World Bank, etc. as creating insurrection and instability to create profit centers through privatisation. Fundamentalists have grabbed a few oil wells and the attendant cash flow that goes with that, so now they are targets of marketing departments to get their cash and voila, who would have suspected, voila, they want weapons. Gotta find an arms dealer to trade these oil well cash piles for something useful like an anti tank weapon or a ground to air missile and the salesmen are all over place like we're a marketing opportunity. Coinky-dink, my ass.
    I just saw this, did not see a quote notification... sorry.

    You make a good point, why I phrased the questions the way I did. Not sure I completely buy into your side of the debate but it is enough to make me re-consider my position on the matter of Corporatism being on the level with systems of belief as motivations to murder someone.
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