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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If the plane has US military markings and is ordered on the mission by the US military, and especially if the personnel are wearing legitimate US military uniforms, it's not terrorism. You may still object to the mission and call it whatever, but it's not terrorism.
    Exactly, it's not terrorism if you drop the bomb from a plane.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Sorry, are we talking about drone strikes (what we were originally discussing) or Iraq/Afghanistan?

    I'm sure we'd be resentful of the ensuing, but if the situation paralleled either Iraq or Afghanistan, we would largely be in favor of the initial invasion - as polls in both countries have suggested.
    I was dubious about throwing my hat into this particular ring as there was always the likely risk I'd come across as some anti-American nutcase. What I'm uncomfortable about is the chasm-like divide we have in discussing terror and terrorism, as though because the motive is not to terrorize the populace this means civilian casualties aren't terrifying to civilians all the same. Personally, I would find it a lot scarier to know that a superior military can accidentally kill me with its advanced, highly devastating weaponry. I don't pretend to know how widespread the sentiments in the Oliver segment are and how representative they are of Pakistani civilians in general* but regardless of our motives, civilians are frightened of blue skies. That's pretty messed up.

    *I don't actually understand the point in distinguishing between Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan in this type of discussion.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Exactly, it's not terrorism if you drop the bomb from a plane.
    Try reading the posts you quote. Yours is a ridiculous reduction.

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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Try reading the posts you quote. Yours is a ridiculous reduction.
    I mean, I'm just agreeing with you, not terrorism if the bomb is dropped from a plane.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Leftist nonsense.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I mean, I'm just agreeing with you, not terrorism if the bomb is dropped from a plane.
    The Precision Guided Munitions used by US forces are the opposite of terrorism. They have enabled an unprecedented reduction in civilian casualties. Only the blame-America crowd would fail to acknowledge that.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I mean, I'm just agreeing with you, not terrorism if the bomb is dropped from a plane.
    The plane must have the markings and the mission must be authorized by the nation state it belongs to. That is what makes it not terrorism. The nation is taking the action, not a bunch of folks dissatisfied with their own or another nation.

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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The Precision Guided Munitions used by US forces are the opposite of terrorism. They have enabled an unprecedented reduction in civilian casualties. Only the blame-America crowd would fail to acknowledge that.
    I agree that the guided munitions used by the US forces are accurate, however that doesn't mean the civillian populous isn't terrorized by them. With that "blame America crowd" rethoric, you sound like Sean Hannity. Isn't that special.


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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I agree that the guided munitions used by the US forces are accurate, however that doesn't mean the civillian populous isn't terrorized by them. With that "blame America crowd" rethoric, you sound like Sean Hannity. Isn't that special.
    If the shoe fits . . .

    I just get tired of people who have never borne the burden of combat making scurrilous remarks about the the forces of the two countries (US and Israel) that have the best records in history of concern for noncombatants and the avoidance of civilian casualties.
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    Re: Is the United States a terrorist nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What I'm uncomfortable about is the chasm-like divide we have in discussing terror and terrorism, as though because the motive is not to terrorize the populace this means civilian casualties aren't terrifying to civilians all the same. Personally, I would find it a lot scarier to know that a superior military can accidentally kill me with its advanced, highly devastating weaponry.
    What a weird statement.
    This is the equivalent of saying that you would find it a lot scarier to know that a person on the road can accidentally kill you with his car than you would have to know that a person on the road is trying to run over you with the purpose of murdering you.

    And basically if there is no intention to kill someone it's not a murder it's an accident, and if it's not an attempt to murder or physically harm someone it can never be terrorism. Those are the basic facts anyway.
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