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    Re: Have you Read Dreams From My Father By Barack Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Why are you here if you don't want to debate people with opposing opinions? By the way, Obama is a moderate centrist, like you claim to be. If you think he's a liberal extremists, you're nowhere near a moderate.
    Only someone to the left of Chairman Mao would think that. You do realize this isn't Europe, right? Just checking.

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    Re: Have you Read Dreams From My Father By Barack Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Why are you here if you don't want to debate people with opposing opinions? By the way, Obama is a moderate centrist, like you claim to be. If you think he's a liberal extremists, you're nowhere near a moderate.
    I never said Obama was very liberal. I said you are. We never brought up his political affiliations. Can you quote me where I said that? It's the liberal extremists who defend him. Same as Cons to Bush.

    That one went way over your head, didn't it. Lol, best of luck pal.

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    Re: Have you Read Dreams From My Father By Barack Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    I have never heard anyone on this forum, other than myself admit to having read Obama's book on his earlier life pre-Presidency.

    So have you actually read it cover to cover? Not just what you've heard about it on Fox News blurbs?

    EDIT: For some reason this didn't take me to the poll section...


    It has absolutely NO appeal for me. First, the title is meaningless, ..."dreams FROM my father...?

    Second, too many contenders write books...my first was Kennedy's "Advise and Consent" a boring, lugubrious affair seemingly intended to make Jack look like a brilliant lawmaker instead of a spoiled playboy. They are usually no more than brag sheets.

    I tend not to read autobiographies at all, and read biographies instead.

    The rushes published in the media were boring and showed me enough; Obama uses the word "I" far too much, misleads, over sells himself and is the biggest egotist I've experienced through 12 presidents. Why would anyone read more boasting and self promotion?
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    Re: Have you Read Dreams From My Father By Barack Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I think someone on this forum struggled to count six lies, the biggest lie being that you get to keep your health insurance (which was actually the doing of the health insurance companies trying to meet the new minimum standards for coverage).

    That's hardly pathological, especially when compared to previous presidents.
    Some people have heard of Gitmo. Obviously you haven't.

    He also said he would create a government civil works force that matched the size of the military.

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    Re: Have you Read Dreams From My Father By Barack Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Why are you here if you don't want to debate people with opposing opinions? By the way, Obama is a moderate centrist, like you claim to be. If you think he's a liberal extremists, you're nowhere near a moderate.
    I think he is saying there is a difference between debate with an open-minded individual and debate with a pull-string doll.

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    Re: Have you Read Dreams From My Father By Barack Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    I never said Obama was very liberal. I said you are. We never brought up his political affiliations. Can you quote me where I said that?
    I never said you said that. Can you quote where I said that you did? You came at me as though I was defending Obama because his politics coincide with my own. They don't. He's a centrist, I'm a 'very liberal'.

    You don't want to debate with a 'very liberal', and you can't handle an opposing viewpoint. Good luck, mate.

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    Re: Have you Read Dreams From My Father By Barack Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I never said you said that. Can you quote where I said that you did? You came at me as though I was defending Obama because his politics coincide with my own. They don't. He's a centrist, I'm a 'very liberal'.

    You don't want to debate with a 'very liberal', and you can't handle an opposing viewpoint. Good luck, mate.
    There is no debating you. You will defend Obama to the death. It's not a debate, it's boring.

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    Re: Have you Read Dreams From My Father By Barack Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    I think he is saying there is a difference between debate with an open-minded individual and debate with a pull-string doll.
    I'm afraid you're mistaken if you think that moderates have a lock on rationality or open-mindedness.

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    Re: Have you Read Dreams From My Father By Barack Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    There is no debating you. You will defend Obama to the death. It's not a debate, it's boring.
    No, this is you whining and committing logical fallacies. You don't know me from a hole in the ground. Enjoy the debate forums.

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    Re: Have you Read Dreams From My Father By Barack Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Why are you here if you don't want to debate people with opposing opinions? By the way, Obama is a moderate centrist, like you claim to be. If you think he's a liberal extremists, you're nowhere near a moderate.
    Anyone that proposed to "fundamentally change America". Is a liberal extremist.

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