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How many liberals to you actually know?

What % of people you know personally would self-ID as liberal?

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tacomancer said:
LOL, you know the wrong group of liberals. Throw up a cards against humanity game or go out to the club, and trust me, most will loosen up and be tons of fun.

Often I find it when people are uptight, its not that they are uptight but guarded. That can be for whatever reason, but if you find it a theme among liberals, you may wish to observe you present yourself.
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There are all types on both sides of the political coin, so there is no right/wrong answer. I will say it's been my experience that if in a casual setting the dreaded topic of politics happens to rear its ugly head and someone is going to get " bent out of shape". In my experience it will usually be the person holding the " liberal" position. IMO :cool:
 
Cephus said:
The funny thing is, among my friends, who almost all self-identify as liberal, as they've gotten older, their actual positions are mostly conservative, not liberal at all. But since the question is about how they self-identify and not about what they actually believe...
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This is sooo true^^ My sister in-law who 15yrs ago and fresh out of college was as liberal as they get. Marriage and 2 kids later, um not so much anymore. What's really amusing is my father in-law who is a FLAMING liberal has 3 daughters, and they all married men who are RW..:lamo
 
Gringo allstar said:
This is sooo true^^ My sister in-law who 15yrs ago and fresh out of college was as liberal as they get. Marriage and 2 kids later, um not so much anymore. What's really amusing is my father in-law who is a FLAMING liberal has 3 daughters, and they all married men who are RW..:lamo
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LKOLOLOLOL great story.
 
spangledbanner said:
In Australia few people know what is left and what is right. or what a conservative or liberal is. It makes it more difficult for them because our conservative party is called The Liberal Party. Which actually does make sense if you look into it.

In Australia rich people vote for the conservative party ( Liberals ) and poor people vote for liberals ( Labor ).

To me it is absurd that WWE fans in America vote for the richer Republican party. That seems pretty stupid. But then again, Democrats hardly appeal to the working class in US do they? They focus on minorities for the most part. And do-gooders. American politics is strange as hell to me.

edit- wouldnt it be easier for one party to be for the working class and the other for the business class? thats normally how it works if you look around the world.

edit- See the conservative Liberal Party is for owners. The 'liberal' Labor Party is for workers... Wouldnt that make more sense?
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To your edits: That's a peculiar legacy of American culture, which stems from the historical belief that we're a nation of boundless opportunities and complete class mobility. The pioneers and rags-to-riches types were our mythological heroes.

Of course, the idea of total class mobility was never true, but that part of the American mindset is likely to be in effect for at least a couple more generations.
 
whysoserious said:
LKOLOLOLOL great story.
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And my Father in law is a great guy! And there are times he tries to bait me into talking politics but I refuse to bite. I look at it this way, no good can come from it, we disagree so why create friction when we get along just fine. I would rather have drama free family gatherings then to discuss politics.
 
Gringo allstar said:
And my Father in law is a great guy! And there are times he tries to bait me into talking politics but I refuse to bite. I look at it this way, no good can come from it, we disagree so why create friction when we get along just fine. I would rather have drama free family gatherings then to discuss politics.
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I was being sarcastic. It was a story and that was it. No one cares if you know 3 people who were dumb when they were kids and then became conservatives. Most liberals aren't just having a fling with the ideology.

I ****ing understand it and have a good reason for believing the things I believe, and you don't get to demean my ideology and act like I just "need to grow up".
 
whysoserious said:
I was being sarcastic. It was a story and that was it. No one cares if you know 3 people who were dumb when they were kids and then became conservatives. Most liberals aren't just having a fling with the ideology.

I ****ing understand it and have a good reason for believing the things I believe, and you don't get to demean my ideology and act like I just "need to grow up".
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There's a reason the saying goes "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain." Yes, liberals need to grow up.
 
whysoserious said:
I was being sarcastic. It was a story and that was it. No one cares if you know 3 people who were dumb when they were kids and then became conservatives. Most liberals aren't just having a fling with the ideology.

I ****ing understand it and have a good reason for believing the things I believe, and you don't get to demean my ideology and act like I just "need to grow up".
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All you've done is prove everything I've posted about as being true. Like I said, if someone is going to get "bent out of shape" chances are they are liberal. If found anything I posted as being demeaning, you might want to knock that chip off your shoulder, and start enjoying life.. Good luck
 
Gringo allstar said:
All you've done is prove everything I've posted about as being true. Like I said, if someone is going to get "bent out of shape" chances are they are liberal. If found anything I posted as being demeaning, you might want to knock that chip off your shoulder, and start enjoying life.. Good luck
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You're entire ideology is that when people mature, they move away from being liberal. It's asinine.

Cephus said:
There's a reason the saying goes "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain." Yes, liberals need to grow up.
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I see you're the type of person who equates an old, dumb saying as truth. Here are some more old sayings (I guess by the time you finish reading this you'll be a ****ing genius):

Humorous Sayings | Wise Old Sayings
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life. - unknown
A deaf husband and a blind wife are always a happy couple. - John Florio (1553-1625)
Cheer up! Remember the less you have, the more there is to get. - unknown

Honestly though, the fact that you guys believe that cracks me up.
 
whysoserious said:
I was being sarcastic. It was a story and that was it. No one cares if you know 3 people who were dumb when they were kids and then became conservatives. Most liberals aren't just having a fling with the ideology.

I ****ing understand it and have a good reason for believing the things I believe, and you don't get to demean my ideology and act like I just "need to grow up".
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Where did I say I knew 3 people who were "dumb when they were kids" ?? I said my father in law has 3 girls who married RW men. Dude take a chill pill!
 
DifferentDrummr said:
This question applies to all the adults who you’ve actually met, seen, interacted with, and who live within approximately 50 miles of you.

They can be family members, friends, co-workers, fellow students, club members, whoever. The only other requirement is that both of you have to know each other by name.

Now imagine that you asked each of these people, individually and privately, the following question: “How would you describe yourself politically?”

What percentage of them would say something like “liberal” or “mostly liberal?”
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If I count only the Navy town I'm in, significantly less than half. But if I include everyone within 50 miles, that would include Seattle, which would make the percentage much higher.
 
Gringo allstar said:
Where did I say I knew 3 people who were "dumb when they were kids" ?? I said my father in law has 3 girls who married RW men. Dude take a chill pill!
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Dude, I'm the chillest guy you know. I don't care if you want to believe that liberalism is an affliction of the young, but I'm just going to keep laughing every time you do.
 
whysoserious said:
You're entire ideology is that when people mature, they move away from being liberal. It's asinine.



I see you're the type of person who equates an old, dumb saying as truth. Here are some more old sayings (I guess by the time you finish reading this you'll be a ****ing genius):

Humorous Sayings | Wise Old Sayings
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life. - unknown
A deaf husband and a blind wife are always a happy couple. - John Florio (1553-1625)
Cheer up! Remember the less you have, the more there is to get. - unknown

Honestly though, the fact that you guys believe that cracks me up.
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Well actually if you would " preach what you practice" and not "practice what you preach" you might even surprise yourself.
 
Gringo allstar said:
Where did I say I knew 3 people who were "dumb when they were kids" ?? I said my father in law has 3 girls who married RW men. Dude take a chill pill!
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Some people don't like the idea that when they grow up, they'll realize that all the things they believe are nonsense?
 
Cephus said:
Some people don't like the idea that when they grow up, they'll realize that all the things they believe are nonsense?
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I'm 100% sure I could debate and crush you on any topic I am liberal on.
 
whysoserious said:
Dude, I'm the chillest guy you know. I don't care if you want to believe that liberalism is an affliction of the young, but I'm just going to keep laughing every time you do.
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First off, I don't know you, secondly there are plenty of old liberals. And where exactly did I say it's an affliction of the young??
You seem to have got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
 
Gringo allstar said:
First off, I don't know you, secondly there are plenty of old liberals. And where exactly did I say it's an affliction of the young??
You seem to have got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
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Are you being serious? You said it was soooooooooooooooooooooooooo true that "as they've gotten older, their actual positions are mostly conservative, not liberal at all."
 
Cephus said:
Some people don't like the idea that when they grow up, they'll realize that all the things they believe are nonsense?
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What's funny is in my early 20s I also considered myself a liberal Democrat. But once you are willing to think these things through to their end results, and be honest with yourself?? For me anyways I ended up on the right.
 
Gringo allstar said:
What's funny is in my early 20s I also considered myself a liberal Democrat. But once you are willing to think these things through to their end results, and be honest with yourself?? For me anyways I ended up on the right.
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Everyone's different I suppose. For instance, I found myself only being more educated as I got older.:mrgreen:
 
whysoserious said:
Are you being serious? You said it was soooooooooooooooooooooooooo true that "as they've gotten older, their actual positions are mostly conservative, not liberal at all."
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Maybe you should go back to post 53 and show me this quote which you contribute to me.. Actually what I really said was " not so much anymore" and for me to say my sister in-law doesn't hold any liberal positions, is kinda funny... anyways I'm done, enjoy your day, its been fun.
 
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