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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Wouldn't you also have to compare these statistics with statistics where a gun protected people, for them to be valid as it pertains to the topic of the OP?
    Wouldn't that already be included in the statistics I posted? All they're looking at is rate of homicide and suicide for people with guns in their home vs people without guns in their home. If guns in the home were preventing homicides, the rate should be lower for gun owners, but instead it's higher.

    I guess having a gun in your home could make you more likely to be a victim of homicide but less likely to be a victim of other crimes.
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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Fixed it for you.

    Of course, being a “progressive”, you are, by definition, on the side of criminals, so it makes sense that you would consider making them less safe equivalent to making “everyone” less safe.
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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Wouldn't that already be included in the statistics I posted? All they're looking at is rate of homicide and suicide for people with guns in their home vs people without guns in their home. If guns in the home were preventing homicides, the rate should be lower for gun owners, but instead it's higher.

    I guess having a gun in your home could make you more likely to be a victim of homicide but less likely to be a victim of other crimes.
    I see no indication of including the aforementioned stats. But you already knew that.

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I reject the question as it is asked.

    A handgun doesn't make one safe or unsafe what it does -- if properly trained to use it -- is it increases your ability to defend yourself from outside force. Be it against your person or property.

    WTF does being "safe" mean? Seriously, think about this.
    The woman who was shot and killed by her two-year-old son at a Walmart in Idaho wasn't safe, if she didn't take her gun she would be alive today. She was less safe.


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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It isn't about being more or less "safe". It's about being more or less prepared to address a potential threat.
    well done.

    that said, on 3 specific occasions in my civilian life, my handgun has provided for my safety.. it was there when i needed it, and it worked out well ( nobody was harmed or died)

    on 1 specific occasion , my sidearm literally saved my life while costing others thiers... but that's a military story and not really applicable to the discussion

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The woman who was shot and killed by her two-year-old son at a Walmart in Idaho wasn't safe, if she didn't take her gun she would be alive today. She was less safe.
    It wasn't the gun which made her less safe. It was her stupidity.
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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The woman who was shot and killed by her two-year-old son at a Walmart in Idaho wasn't safe, if she didn't take her gun she would be alive today. She was less safe.
    Rubbish.
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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The woman who was shot and killed by her two-year-old son at a Walmart in Idaho wasn't safe, if she didn't take her gun she would be alive today. She was less safe.
    interesting argument.

    I wonder if you have the same sentiment for those whom were killed by their airbags deploying when they were in an auto accident?... did purchasing car with airbags make them less safe?

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Wouldn't you also have to compare these statistics with statistics where a gun protected people, for them to be valid as it pertains to the topic of the OP?
    Not to mention that being "safe" does not necessarily simply talk about "violent death". The other question about such statistics is whether or not their including suicide deaths by guns in their total

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    It only makes you "less safe" if you don't know how to handle a firearm properly.
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