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Thread: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    According to the articles that I've read she was shot and killed with her own gun by her 2-year old son.

    Did they get the story wrong?

    Maybe she was safe until that little boy killed her.

    The lesson here is stay away from 2-year olds with access to guns.
    The lesson here is to own guns responsibly. Obviously this wasn't the case.

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    There are many items inherently more danerous than a modern firearm commonly found around homes:

    Buckets of water, swimming pools, bathtubs.

    Ladders

    Chainsaws, dull knieves.

    Medicatations, narcotics, alcohol.

    Bleach, cleaning products.

    Cars, motorcycles, 4 wheelers, bicycles.

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    A gun property holstered or secured is far safer than all the above.
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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    The lesson here is to own guns responsibly. Obviously this wasn't the case.


    From what I've read she tried to be safe, but her 2-year old outsmarted her.

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    If the owners hadn't made the gun available many would still be alive, having had time to reconsider. Shooting yourself on impulse is a final act.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there is no proof of that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    we should poll the folks that have successfully committed suicide to get the facts
    <snicker>
    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    No more than jumping off a bridge/building, or in front of a train. They're all permanent solutions to a temporary problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    How can you know this?

    So is hanging one's self. Or sitting in your garage with the car running. Or taking a bottle of pills. You would prefer the 80% of people who kill themselves with guns use one of these other means?
    We could poll those that have come close to suicide by other means, and ask them if they had a gun in their house, do they think they would be alive or not?

    I personally know someone who wouldn't be alive now had he had a gun (he has since recovered and regrets ever trying to commit suicide). You could also refer to this thread: http://www.debatepolitics.com/tavern...ones-life.html - I don't know whether the subject of this thread would have or not, of course it's difficult to deal with hypotheticals.

    Regardless of whether you think this is a reason for gun control or not, it's a valid point Manc Skipper brings up and is silly to just plainly dismiss and snicker at.
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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    There are many items inherently more danerous than a modern firearm commonly found around homes:

    Buckets of water, swimming pools, bathtubs.

    Ladders

    Chainsaws, dull knieves.

    Medicatations, narcotics, alcohol.

    Bleach, cleaning products.

    Cars, motorcycles, 4 wheelers, bicycles.

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    A gun property holstered or secured is far safer than all the above.


    Until someone shoots you with it.

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    From what I've read she tried to be safe, but her 2-year old outsmarted her.
    You can't "try" to be safe if your 2 years old can gain access. There are designed holsters and bags for such situation.

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Until someone shoots you with it.
    I'd rather be shot than ran over by a car, attacked with a chainsaw, or drink draincleaner.
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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    You can't "try" to be safe if your 2 years old can gain access.
    There are designed holsters and bags for such situation.


    According to some articles that I've read she had her gun in one of those, but it didn't stop her 2-year old from shooting and killing her.

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    It's hard to say. I dont like having a gun. I am clumsy.
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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    According to some articles that I've read she had her gun in one of those, but it didn't stop her 2-year old from shooting and killing her.
    According to the local APR news source that spoke about the bag (was watching CNN)- the mother did not have any of the safety models designed with parental locks. That part is strangely not being reported....

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