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Thread: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It all depends on what you do with that gun.

    If you keep it secure and out of the hands of others it might save your life.

    Otherwise it might cost you your life.
    true enough

    when a mope sees the gun you should already be ready to shoot him

    Hunter Thompson noted people who pulled guns on Hells angels often got seriously hurt because they weren't ready to use the gun. on the other hand, those who were ready to use it-the bikers almost always backed down. mopes are good at telling that. I've been around enough of them to know that. its like that scene in Tombstone when Wyatt Earp said he was gonna make a canoe out of one of the cowboy's head. and another said he's just bluffing and the almost wasted victim said no-he's not bluffing. and they all backed down. I walked through Central park past people I knew were mopes. and they knew that I knew they were mopes. and I never got hassled. and when I told a former NYC cop about that he noted-hell you look like you could kill a few of them (he knew I was packing but I also was a pro squash player at the time-6-1 175 and the best shape of my life). he said those guys read people really well and its not worth picking a fight with a guy who will probably take one or two of them with him. and all sorts of studies prove that



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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    481 votes for less safe

    here are the actual members who voted this way

    Declan, fred68, Painter, pbrauer, Ryan5, Unrepresented

    six leftwing votes

    now who do you think makes up the other 475 votes

    1) non members

    2) left-wingers who logged out and voted dozens of times

    any thoughts?
    SOMEONE or SOMEONES is/are "gaming the poll. I have access to the actual numbers. As of the time of my post:

    8 members voted for Less Safe.
    9 members voted for Other.
    24 members voted for More Safe.
    1 member voted for I Don't Know.

    I will alter the poll numbers to reflect this. I HATE it when people do this to polls. It is certainly deliberate. Times past, I used to have access to figure out who, but the software update prevents me from doing so.

    Inform me if this happens again.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It looks like all the choices have been spamed. How in hell does somebody do that? I would think that only one vote per ip would be allowed.
    There are ways. I've seen this before, often in gay rights polls. I'm not going to post how, but it does take some tenacity. When someone alerts me, I'm happy to fix it. I hate it when people do this crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    SOMEONE or SOMEONES is/are "gaming the poll. I have access to the actual numbers. As of the time of my post:

    8 members voted for Less Safe.
    9 members voted for Other.
    24 members voted for More Safe.
    1 member voted for I Don't Know.

    I will alter the poll numbers to reflect this. I HATE it when people do this to polls. It is certainly deliberate. Times past, I used to have access to figure out who, but the software update prevents me from doing so.

    Inform me if this happens again.
    Its also happened in my Al Sharpton poll and the JFK/Embargo poll.

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its also happened in my Al Sharpton poll and the JFK/Embargo poll.
    I'll take a look and alter the numbers. Are they still active threads? Also, link me to them. I need the EXACT spelling of the thread title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Because they kill each other.
    That generally hurts..


    Only for a little while, then they have eternal peace.

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'll take a look and alter the numbers. Are they still active threads? Also, link me to them. I need the EXACT spelling of the thread title.
    I dont know how you define active threads. It would be nice if we could have public votes without outside viewers being able to vote.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...8-w-433-a.html
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...inst-cuba.html

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont know how you define active threads. It would be nice if we could have public votes without outside viewers being able to vote.
    Can't. The owner wants it that way.

    OK. I'll fix them. I already found the Sharpton thread and you are correct... the numbers have been screwed with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont know how you define active threads. It would be nice if we could have public votes without outside viewers being able to vote.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...8-w-433-a.html
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...inst-cuba.html
    Both have been fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Does owning a hand gun for protection make you more safe or less safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Both have been fixed.
    Thanks, shame you have to go back and fit these things.

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