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The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for mor

Do you support the NYPD work stoppage?

  • No, but officers refuse to any action with personal risks

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Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

Given that the mayor and other race baiting douchebags have done their best to vilify cops and in light of the recent videos we've seen posted of minor police/citizen interactions involving citizens screaming I CANT BREATHE and HANDS UP!...I HAVE MY HANDS UP!!!, I'd say if the cops are taking a step back in their policing that is probably a really good decision.

Yea, there you go - it's OK to stoop to another's level just for spite.

Quite a selfish and childish response.

Fire all of them and replace them with folks who actually want to work.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

Yea, there you go - it's OK to stoop to another's level just for spite.

Quite a selfish and childish response.

Fire all of them and replace them with folks who actually want to work.

But that, if it were at all possible in reality, would only result in riots and more chants of No Justice No Peace. The whole shtick of the protesters is that they don't want laws enforced. You know your new police department would still be shutting down and arresting the loosie dealers, right? They wouldn't allow you to drink in public or pull off strongarm robberies.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

Yea, there you go - it's OK to stoop to another's level just for spite.

Quite a selfish and childish response.

Fire all of them and replace them with folks who actually want to work.
Most of them want to work. Most of them arent killer cops. There is no evidence Ramos and Liu were anything but good men...good human beings, and good cops. They were executed because a ****head mayor and a bunch of ****head race baiting assholes have stirred up a nationwide cop hating frenzy. And since that is the climate created by the race baiting ****heads, its probably wise that law enforcement is taking a bit of a step back for the moment.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

And I don't. The incidents they are protesting are poor examples of police misconduct. That is to say they either weren't misconduct at all or the system for addressing misconduct worked as it should.

If that is how the system is intended to work, then protests are definitely needed. That's a corrupt system.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

Traffic lights, stop signs, speed limits, and pedestrian crossings are all just a bunch of BS. Eliminate all that, eliminate those laws, and lay-off all those police. Close those courts. People don't need to be told how to drive. Lower taxes. Problem solved.

Exactly! I mean, this response is totally reasonable and is no means hyperbole. So let's do it!
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

And I don't. The incidents they are protesting are poor examples of police misconduct. That is to say they either weren't misconduct at all or the system for addressing misconduct worked as it should.


I agree, except in the case of garner. You had a cop with 4 incidents, including a settlement in less than 2 years for excessive force, put a modified lapel choke on an obese dude for suspicion of selling single cigarettes, and a lackluster emt response at best. this is a case one can get behind showing the police in general need reform.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

The problem must be those 50% of beat officers who are white, in a 37% white city. Fire all the white police. Make them 100% minority. That'd solve everything.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

What we need here is a post from several NYC police, giving their input with their identity unknown..
So tempting that 10 to 20% of the police be laid off .. their numbers may be too great ..
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

In their hatred of police, some on the left has found the problem and the solution!

Damn parking meters, crosswalks and stop lights. All those picky misdemeanor and regulatory rules should be eliminated.

TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT!
TOO MANY REGULATIONS!
TOO MANY LAWS!

Roll government WAY back. Eliminate 90% of regulations and rules. Lay off over half of all government employees and staff. Radically cut taxes.

A NEW liberal agenda. That's got my vote!
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

In their hatred of police, some on the left has found the problem and the solution!

Damn parking meters, crosswalks and stop lights. All those picky misdemeanor and regulatory rules should be eliminated.

TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT!
TOO MANY REGULATIONS!
TOO MANY LAWS!

Roll government WAY back. Eliminate 90% of regulations and rules. Lay off over half of all government employees and staff. Radically cut taxes.

A NEW liberal agenda. That's got my vote!



I know right, then you have the other extreme calling for more government, more laws, and enforcment of victimless crimes... it's a strange world we live in. lol
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

If that is how the system is intended to work, then protests are definitely needed. That's a corrupt system.

We disagree and you have no better system to suggest do you? You just have this general feeling, without the entirety of the facts in any of those cases, that something "unfair" went on. That translates in your mind to misconduct.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

I agree, except in the case of garner. You had a cop with 4 incidents, including a settlement in less than 2 years for excessive force, put a modified lapel choke on an obese dude for suspicion of selling single cigarettes, and a lackluster emt response at best. this is a case one can get behind showing the police in general need reform.

The cops can't do anything about the EMTs and what happened to the cop who violated department policy?
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

The cops can't do anything about the EMTs and what happened to the cop who violated department policy?


Not enough if you ask me. Palenteno was called an "eagle scout", yet he has 4 excessive force complaints including one where the nypd paid out 30 grand.


Why was he still employed?
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

I know right, then you have the other extreme calling for more government, more laws, and enforcment of victimless crimes... it's a strange world we live in. lol

Yeah, except those mentioned are LOCAL ordinances and law. Now, do that with the federal government and you might have something.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

Not enough if you ask me. Palenteno was called an "eagle scout", yet he has 4 excessive force complaints including one where the nypd paid out 30 grand.


Why was he still employed?

Dunno, doesn't NYC have a Citizen Review Board? His history may not be as characterized for those who had all the facts.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

We disagree and you have no better system to suggest do you? You just have this general feeling, without the entirety of the facts in any of those cases, that something "unfair" went on. That translates in your mind to misconduct.

Oh it's not a general feeling. It's recognizing unfair treatment where it exists. The world is a muddy place, not a game of cops and robbers. I think you're too quick to give police the benefit of the doubt over citizens.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

In their hatred of police, some on the left has found the problem and the solution!

Damn parking meters, crosswalks and stop lights. All those picky misdemeanor and regulatory rules should be eliminated.

TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT!
TOO MANY REGULATIONS!
TOO MANY LAWS!

Roll government WAY back. Eliminate 90% of regulations and rules. Lay off over half of all government employees and staff. Radically cut taxes.

A NEW liberal agenda. That's got my vote!

That sounds more like a conservative or libertarian solution to me.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

Dunno, doesn't NYC have a Citizen Review Board? His history may not be as characterized for those who had all the facts.


https://www.google.com/webhp?source...=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Pantaleo+nypd+complaints


everyone from fox news to 7online has reported it.


You can choose to wallow in ignorance if you must, it matter to me not.


fact is there was a settlement for his excessive force against two people.. I think you have been one to make issue with garner's pass, is this a double standard I am detecting?
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

Yeah, except those mentioned are LOCAL ordinances and law. Now, do that with the federal government and you might have something.


Not sure of the relevance here. I didn't make a distinction between local and federalis.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

I know right, then you have the other extreme calling for more government, more laws, and enforcment of victimless crimes... it's a strange world we live in. lol

You and I both have been severely critical and calling for action in regards to TRUE and SERIOUS instances and problems with police abuse, while not interesting in the whining picky little crap.

But most (not all) on the forum are absolutists. 100% support of 100% of the police 100% of the time OR 100% hatred of 100% of police 100% of the time. And if that contradicts their principles, rantings and sobbings, on other topics it doesn't matter. Reasoning, facts and logic are formed only after deciding the conclusion they want to reach.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

Oh it's not a general feeling. It's recognizing unfair treatment where it exists. The world is a muddy place, not a game of cops and robbers. I think you're too quick to give police the benefit of the doubt over citizens.

You recognize the world is a muddy place and refuse to recognize that some citizens, especially those doing something wrong, routinely lie like rugs wherever police are involved. Knowing this why wouldn't you give the police the benefit of the doubt. Especially when neither of us are party to all the facts in these cases.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

I see no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Typically, I stand beside our men and women in blue. I still do.

But I acknowledge the problem, none the less.

One reason our police have become militarized is because many of the returning veterans are joining the force in record numbers since Vietnam.

Therein lies half the problem, in my humble opinion.

The streets of America are NOT the streets of Baghdad or Kabul. American citizens are NOT the enemy or the Taliban, if you will.

This mentality does need some work. I do not agree that returning veterans make for the best police.

We would be in really bad shape without cops.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

Most of them want to work. Most of them arent killer cops. There is no evidence Ramos and Liu were anything but good men...good human beings, and good cops. They were executed because a ****head mayor and a bunch of ****head race baiting assholes have stirred up a nationwide cop hating frenzy. And since that is the climate created by the race baiting ****heads, its probably wise that law enforcement is taking a bit of a step back for the moment.

Bull****.

They are playing union work slowdown games, and it is childish and wrong, no matter the reason.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

You and I both have been severely critical and calling for action in regards to TRUE and SERIOUS instances and problems with police abuse, while not interesting in the whining picky little crap.

But most (not all) on the forum are absolutists. 100% support of 100% of the police 100% of the time OR 100% hatred of 100% of police 100% of the time. And if that contradicts their principles, rantings and sobbings, on other topics it doesn't matter. Reasoning, facts and logic are formed only after deciding the conclusion they want to reach.




you are wrong, thier prospective conclusions are provided for them. ;)


but yes, you are correct, we get these absolutists who help no one.
 
Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

Not enough if you ask me. Palenteno was called an "eagle scout", yet he has 4 excessive force complaints including one where the nypd paid out 30 grand.


Why was he still employed?

Because of the union.
 
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