View Poll Results: Do you support the NYPD work stoppage?

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    Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

    This seems much like what happens when budget cuts occur - the executive stops providing the most visible services but all gov't employees still get paid. The odd thing, in this case, is that the mayor has little recourse to correct what is happening on his watch short of admitting that he was moronic to make this into a political (racial?) issue from day one. It will be interesting to see how long this lasts. Meanwhile the prosecutors can now actually try the cases that they do get, which should reduce the use of plea deals to greatly reduced charges.
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    Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

    I wonder what would happen if law abiding, pro-police people held their own march down MLK Blvd., protesting black violence/crime?

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    Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I wonder what would happen if law abiding, pro-police people held their own march down MLK Blvd., protesting black violence/crime?
    There would be law abiding, pro-police black people joining them

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    Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    There would be law abiding, pro-police black people joining them
    I think you're right. I see more and more black folks speaking out about the problems they face created by their own race. But not enough.

    Their people would call them "Uncle Tom's" for stepping up and taking responsibility. It's easier to just blame Whitey.

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    Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Given that the NYPD has adopted 'wartime policing' in which they are dispatching double the man power for every call out, is this really any sort of surprise?

    A work stoppage?
    Has the NYPD declared a strike? Don't think so.
    Have there been reports of large numbers calling in sick? The blue flu? Don't think so.

    Is it really a work stoppage? Doesn't seem to be to me. Why does it seem to be to you?
    The reason police are required to have back up while conducting things like traffic stops or small searches, is because of the frequency of them being killed in routine traffic stops when backup wasn't present. It happens so frequently they have to have back up. That's how ridiculous people are. Killing cops at frigging traffic stops.

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    Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for more serious offenses have dropped by 2/3rds.


    NYPD traffic tickets and summonses for minor offenses have dropped off by a staggering 94 percent following the execution of two cops — as officers feel betrayed by the mayor and fear for their safety, The Post has learned.


    Arrests plummet 66% with NYPD in virtual work stoppage
    http://nypost.com/2014/12/29/arrests-plummet-following-execution-of-two-cops/


    The NYPD's Insubordination—and Why the Right Should Oppose It

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/why-the-right-should-oppose-the-nypds-flagrant-insubordination/384140/


    NYPD Reportedly in ‘Virtual Work Stoppage’ Over de Blasio Rift
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/nypd-in-work-stoppage-over-de-blasio-rift.html



    Do you support the NYPD work stoppage?
    Where do they say that they are doing a slowdown for the sake of a slowdown?

    From the article you linked:

    Angry union leaders have ordered drastic measures for their members since the Dec. 20 assassination of two NYPD cops in a patrol car, including that two units respond to every call.

    It has helped contribute to a nose dive in low-level policing, with overall arrests down 66 percent for the week starting Dec. 22 compared with the same period in 2013, stats show.

    ...“This is not a slowdown for slowdown’s sake. Cops are concerned, after the reaction from City Hall on the Garner case, about de Blasio not backing them.”
    Would I support a police strike or a slowdown as a protest? No, not ever.

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    Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

    Makes perfect sense to me. Given the situation in NYC, why risk a major confrontation or worse over a misdemeanor offense?

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    Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Makes perfect sense to me. Given the situation in NYC, why risk a major confrontation or worse over a misdemeanor offense?
    Why let some thugs intimidate police? That's ridiculous.

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    Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

    I couldn't respond positively to the poll because every option seemed to have a bias or condition that I didn't support.

    Anyone who's lived in North America in the last century has been inconvenienced by a collective "work to rule" initiated by one union group or another who has a beef with their employer. Why should the police be any less "entitled" to such action?

    It does create an interesting dynamic, however. Those who most oppose police using such tactics are likely also those who most support collective bargaining and unions in general. Those who most support the police action in this situation are likely to have little use for unions in a general sense.
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    Re: The NYPD has essentially stopped writing traffic and parking tickets. Arrests for

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    Why let some thugs intimidate police? That's ridiculous.
    Asking police to enforce tax laws in NYC is pretty ridiculous, too. Remember, it's not either of us who's tasked with taking the flak that might arise for writing a parking ticket for someone with a chip on his or her shoulder, and looking for an incident to exploit. Once a police officer initiates enforcement of such a minor offense, the reaction of the apprehended citizen is largely beyond the police officer's control, as in the Garner case. It's better to focus on the real dangerous offenders in which the enforcement effort is more appreciated.

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