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    Re: Should the Satan religious display be allowed in the florida state capital?

    Once we have a Satanismas or something like that as a national holiday and stores selling Satanismas gifts and such, we should join the fun. Of course we should also have some Muhammad skeletons flying on a rug on a special day. Of course the cowards dejour wouldn't dare.
    When that day comes, I'll put a little something on my front stoop.
    Until then, have some respect. Christmas is only once a year.

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    Re: Should the Satan religious display be allowed in the florida state capital?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Yes assuming other religious paraphernalia are permitted to be displayed on government property. But the better policy would be to not display any religious paraphernalia on government property.
    yep its all or none, theres no other way and the best way would be none since that follows the law and doesnt work any grey areas people like to play in until others wanna play too.
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    Re: Should the Satan religious display be allowed in the florida state capital?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." --Exodus 20:4. The construction of these religious displays, even if Christian in nature, is a sin.
    No one is bowing down to or worshiping these displays.
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    Re: Should the Satan religious display be allowed in the florida state capital?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I would just choose some minimum standards such as:

    100+ adherents
    has existed for more than five years
    established worship site (even if its bob's shed in the back yard)
    is not based on a work of popular fiction


    Thats probably all thats needed.
    Wicca and other pagan variations are large religions with all the other qualifications but is one that is as structured to be practiced solitary as well as with a group. For that matter many religions are. Additionally, with many pagan religions, there is no one place of worship. You are running off the stereotype of worship that comprises the majority of the big 3.

    I agree, for the purposes of legal recognition, that there should be some kind of criteria. Much in the way that a couple can be married yet not legally recognized if they don't obtain the paperwork, so can a religion exist without legal recognition by the government. In both cases, they participants should not expect to receive any associated rights for not having such legal status. Likewise, it is not unreasonable for there to be guidelines on what is or isn't for legal purposes, as long as those guidelines are reasonable and do not isolate out any group in particular.
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    Re: Should the Satan religious display be allowed in the florida state capital?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Christians say the world was created in 7 days about 6,000 years ago.
    Some Christians believe that, not all.
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    Re: Should the Satan religious display be allowed in the florida state capital?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Some Christians believe that, not all.
    Actually I would say that all Christians do believe in the 7 days part. What is not in agreement is the scale of those seven days. Even looking at our physical universe, the length of a day varies with the different planets and satellites. IIRC, Mercury's day and year are the same length of time.since the establishment of the sun was not until the third "day" and the sun is the standard by which we use to determine our days, it is not unreasonable to assume that the 7 days were of the scale that the Creator uses.
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    Re: Should the Satan religious display be allowed in the florida state capital?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Wicca and other pagan variations are large religions with all the other qualifications but is one that is as structured to be practiced solitary as well as with a group. For that matter many religions are. Additionally, with many pagan religions, there is no one place of worship. You are running off the stereotype of worship that comprises the majority of the big 3.

    I agree, for the purposes of legal recognition, that there should be some kind of criteria. Much in the way that a couple can be married yet not legally recognized if they don't obtain the paperwork, so can a religion exist without legal recognition by the government. In both cases, they participants should not expect to receive any associated rights for not having such legal status. Likewise, it is not unreasonable for there to be guidelines on what is or isn't for legal purposes, as long as those guidelines are reasonable and do not isolate out any group in particular.
    Some grove or whatever in the woods that is frequented but not officially documented would be sufficient in my mind. Plus Wicca has probably over 100k adherents.

    My main aim isn't really to judge validity or not so much as recognize there is limited space in the capital building so some minimum discrimination would be needed. As far as I am concerned, a religion held by one person is valid (or should be in the eyes of the law), but the state capital just isn't big enough for thousands of displays.

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    Re: Should the Satan religious display be allowed in the florida state capital?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Some grove or whatever in the woods that is frequented but not officially documented would be sufficient in my mind. Plus Wicca has probably over 100k adherents.

    My main aim isn't really to judge validity or not so much as recognize there is limited space in the capital building so some minimum discrimination would be needed. As far as I am concerned, a religion held by one person is valid (or should be in the eyes of the law), but the state capital just isn't big enough for thousands of displays.
    I'm with you insofar as there should never be anything that legally prevents the religious/spiritual practice of anyone save where such interferes with the rights/safety of others who have not consented to such. I'm looking more at legal recognition for, yes, the ability of making the display, as well as taxation purposes if a central location is establishes and other such issues. In making that determination, having such an established location should not be a criteria. What if we have one that is all about solo worship? Your other criteria make sense though and do not have any unreasonable limitations towards any religion/ belief system
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    Re: Should the Satan religious display be allowed in the florida state capital?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    I'm with you insofar as there should never be anything that legally prevents the religious/spiritual practice of anyone save where such interferes with the rights/safety of others who have not consented to such. I'm looking more at legal recognition for, yes, the ability of making the display, as well as taxation purposes if a central location is establishes and other such issues. In making that determination, having such an established location should not be a criteria. What if we have one that is all about solo worship? Your other criteria make sense though and do not have any unreasonable limitations towards any religion/ belief system
    I agree, perhaps you are correct in there needing to be a location.

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    Re: Should the Satan religious display be allowed in the florida state capital?

    I voted no.

    There should be no Satanic displays, no Christian displays, no Jewish displays, no Hindu displays, no religious displays of any kind.

    We're talking about the houses of government here, not an elementary school classroom.
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    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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