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    When did the United States stop following the path of the founding fathers?

    This should provide an interesting discussion.

    The question is this: can you estimate the time period where the united state stopped following the founding fathers exact vision of how the government should operate, as detailed in the federalist papers, U.S constitution, and other founding documents?

    The time periods under scrutiny are as follows:

    1. 1790-1860s. The first time frame covers the administrations of the founding fathers and goes up to the start of the civil war. This time frame assumes that the founding fathers did not adhere to a static interpration of the constitution and found it necessary to fill in the blanks with regards to practical governance.

    2.the second time frame starts in 1860 and concludes around 1900.

    3. Time frame three is set around 1900 and lasts until 1932.

    4. The fourth choice of time frame is from 1932 to 1945.

    If these options seem limited, make your own theory as a fifth option.
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    Re: When did the United States stop following the path of the founding fathers?

    When did the United States stop following the path of the founding fathers?
    around the time of the Alien and Sedition acts?

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    Re: When did the United States stop following the path of the founding fathers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    around the time of the Alien and Sedition acts?
    The alien and sedition acts that were implemented by the Federalist Party?
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    Re: When did the United States stop following the path of the founding fathers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The alien and sedition acts that were implemented by the Federalist Party?
    no, the other ones.


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    Re: When did the United States stop following the path of the founding fathers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    no, the other ones.

    I was asking that question in order to follow up with the punch line.

    What you are implying is that The founding fathers themselves did not strictly adhere to their vision of the constitution.
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    Re: When did the United States stop following the path of the founding fathers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I was asking that question in order to follow up with the punch line.

    What you are implying is that The founding fathers themselves did not strictly adhere to their vision of the constitution.
    yep, that's exactly what i was trying to say.

    a lot of people like to argue that we've betrayed the founding fathers by giving the poor welfare while ignoring the fact that Washington didn't even like political parties much and would definitely not have dug a state of perpetual war. like everything else, there's a lot of nuance when we're talking about the founding fathers.

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    Re: When did the United States stop following the path of the founding fathers?

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    Re: When did the United States stop following the path of the founding fathers?

    Hamilton's creation of the first federal bank and Madison v Marbury. Later, Lincoln's many affronts to Constitution in the Civil War made us a federal first nation, the direct opposite of what the founder's envisioned.

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    Re: When did the United States stop following the path of the founding fathers?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Hamilton's creation of the first federal bank and Madison v Marbury. Later, Lincoln's many affronts to Constitution in the Civil War made us a federal first nation, the direct opposite of what the founder's envisioned.
    I don't see anything that indicated that mandated we avoid becoming a federal nation?

    Also, why is hamilton's viewpoint considered repugnant? I thought that hamilton was just as big an influence in the development of this country as Maddison and Jefferson?
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