I'd say it was when we developed political parties and foreign entanglements.
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once again the constitution gives the federal govt the power to make treaties that become the supreme law of the landAt the federal level, our government does not have the authority to claim any powers that the Constitution does not explicitly delegate thereto.
Once again correct and I have already said as much once again I point you to Reid v CovertIt is not rational to suppose that the authors of the Constitution intended to allow the possibility that our government might use a treaty with a foreign nation as a way to circumvent the limitations and protections that the Constitution is clearly intended to assert. Our government, cannot, for example, enter into a treaty with Iran that requires all citizens of the U.S. to convert to Islam.
However there is nothing in the constitution which creates a right to do drugs so a treaty can ban those and note that the treaty doesnt even override the 10th amendment as local entities are allowed to legalize drugs.
No one is ceding authority to your mythical "foreign interest" we freely agree to treaties and we can pull our support from them at any timeOur government does not have the authority to cede to any foreign interest, any power over us, that our government does not, itself have the legitimate authority to exercise over us; and nothing in the portion of the Constitution which you cites—nor anywhere else in the Constitution—can rationally be construed as claiming otherwise.
since we have to go on a time frame...with the most damage done....1880 - 1945
destruction of Republican form of government, income tax, government expansion into the worlds affairs, federal reserve takeover of our money, the federal government steeping into the personal life's of the people.
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Anti-Democracy advocate, Mixed government is the only good government
THE second point to be examined is, whether the [constitutional ]convention were authorized to frame and propose this mixed Constitution.
The second is where things truly shift into a different form of existence in which - if certain choices hadn't been made - the world would be very different right now.
A screaming comes across the sky.
It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers