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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    This was supposed to be a funeral, not a place to make a political statement, IMO, another low for the already low NYPD. No respect for the dead or living. Just for themselves. How egotistical.

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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    The Mayor was in a no-win situation. If he had not gone he would have been criticized for not caring, and that criticism would have followed him around far longer.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Meh, it's not like your stance on this is any surprise any more than mine is. That's no flame at all. Whether someone is sympathetic to the statement the cops were making will pretty much reflect their overal attitude about law enforcement officers. Just, at least, recognize that you're not being, in anyway objective.
    I'm still trying to figure out what you think I said. I wonder if you have a computer program that erases what people actually said and then replaces the text with random words that will enable you to criticize them.

    If the cops marched on city hall holding signs blasting the mayor, would you support that (or would you say it's inappropriate for officers to act like that)?
    If I said that I would support it, would you believe me?

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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Does the mayor typically speak at funerals of fallen police officers? And does anyone know of his comments? Biden also spoke at the funeral...does the Vice President often speak at police funerals? Talk about making a funeral 'political'. Doe sit bother those that are upset with the cops turning their backs (people directly impacted by all of this) that politics is the rule of the day at this funeral? And during Bidens comments anyone care to hazard a guess at the over and under on how many times he made personal comments or comments about Obama's time in New York?

    de Blasio has some mending to do. That should be obvious to anyone...even him. If he does nothing and continues to think he is blameless then he will continue to have problems.

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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    I assume it is expected for the mayor of a city to attend the funeral of a fallen police officer, perhaps even say a few words. I also assume that the mayor was invited by the family.
    Fellow police officers attend a funeral to honor a fallen comrade and to show respect to the family. The funeral isn't about them. Time and place for everything.
    That doesn't mean I don't feel for the officers, and I most certainly wouldn't want to be in Deblasio's shoes either.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out what you think I said. I wonder if you have a computer program that erases what people actually said and then replaces the text with random words that will enable you to criticize them.
    I didn't intend that as criticism. I just meant that we all bring our own pre conceived ideas into the things we analyze so it's not like anything any of us says is any kind of surprise. You condemning the cops actions here was equally as foreseeable as me defending them. That's all.


    If I said that I would support it, would you believe me?
    I'd be curious about your reasoning in light of your full agreement with the Ferguson protestors.

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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    The Mayor was in a no-win situation. If he had not gone he would have been criticized for not caring, and that criticism would have followed him around far longer.
    Exactly.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    de Blasio has some mending to do. That should be obvious to anyone...even him. If he does nothing and continues to think he is blameless then he will continue to have problems.
    Why is it that de Blasio has mending to do? Isn't it the NYPD who engaged in Stop & Frisk, and act that was ruled illegal in the courts? If the NYPD would stop engaging in the deliberate targeting of minorities and making up excuses to "stop & frisk" them for no reason then that would probably go a long way.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Some NYPD officers who have objected publicly to the department's use of stop-question-and-frisk paperwork as a performance metrice which they claim encourages officers to overuse the practice and creates public hostility.
    New York police officer Adrian Schoolcraft made extensive recordings in 20082009 which documented orders from NYPD officials to search and arrest black people in the Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood. Schoolcraft, who brought accusations of misconduct to NYPD investigators, was transferred to a desk job and then involuntarily committed to a psychiatric hospital. In 2010, Schoolcraft sent his tapes to the Village Voice, which publicized them in a series of reports. Schoolcraft alleges that the NYPD has retaliated against him for exposing information about the stop and frisk policy.
    Anyone who supports the NYPD is in support of systematic racism. That's all there is to it. It's really open and shut. It's transparent. There's not discussion to be had.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Why is it that de Blasio has mending to do? Isn't it the NYPD who engaged in Stop & Frisk, and act that was ruled illegal in the courts? If the NYPD would stop engaging in the deliberate targeting of minorities and making up excuses to "stop & frisk" them for no reason then that would probably go a long way.
    He shouldnt. he should continue to foment outrage and distrust between his office and law enforcement. That will be extraordinarily helpful.

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