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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
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    There's two - if you want to view more, there are probably thousands on the internet for you to peruse.
    I read your articles as well information from other sources and you're right and I was wrong. The percentage of stops was proportionate to the percentage of crimes. I'm sorry for saying that you were incorrect on that point. If you evaluate stop-and-frisk according to whether or not it total % of stops of Black residents is proportionate to the total % of crimes committed by Black people, then stop-and-frisk is permissible. I still, however, evaluate it from whether or not it is discriminatory which means that it's not permissible to me. I don't believe that all Black people should be treated like criminals just because other Black people raise the crime rate. If 100% of crime is committed by 10% of Black people, the other 90% should not be subject to profiling because of it. Not only is unconstitutional; it is immoral. Beyond that, it is the foundation of many Black people's distrust of police.

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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by Horace View Post
    di Blasio as mayor is pretty much required to go. The problem lies in the fact that di Blasio destroyed the relationship between himself and NYPD when he was running for mayor. And he has continued to destroy it since then, particularly with the comments he put out in the media about the advise he was giving to his own son. The damage is irreparable and di Blasio clearly has no idea how to repair the damage. An obvious apology will never occur to him to offer. You can't run NYC without the support of the NYPD. IMO di Blasio might as well not even bother running for re-election, in speaking to family and friends in NYC, I am learning his now considered toast. Just my two cents worth.
    Perhaps the officers who turned their back on their boss need to go.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    As justifiably unwelcome as he is right now, he is the Mayor and should show up.
    He is unwelcome because he wants to change the status quo. The police like it just the way it is. They are wrong. Police are the servants of the people not the other way around.

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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Attending an Officers funeral are part of his duties as mayor.
    If an Officer is offended by his attending they have 2 choices.
    Not attend or attend and STFU about it.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Perhaps the officers who turned their back on their boss need to go.
    Go where? I'm sure di Blasio would like them to "go away" but they won't be. And given the numbers of officers that have been turning their backs on the mayor, it would not be very intelligent to try to run them off. Despite the attitudes and rhetoric, NYC needs police to ensure the peace. That place would go to hell in a hand basket pretty quickly without them.

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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    about the mayor making the statement that he will tell his son how to act around the police ...he was telling the truth everyone should know how to act around the police and the police should know how to act and treat people/ citizens...but if they are mad about making quotas with tickets that is a different story... I would not like that at all and yes it was tacky to turn your back on the mayor the police want the mayor to kiss their but and give them free access to do whatever they want to do...this is not a police state ....sorry everyone has to be held accountable for what they do...I know I do as a landlord
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    if the city paid one penny for the funeral for the police ..I mean traffic control ,,,,cops getting any city money while they were off at the funeral..any city money then the mayor deserved to be there and should be there... it did not look like a private funeral to me.. looks like some city money was used..
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by Horace View Post
    Go where? I'm sure di Blasio would like them to "go away" but they won't be. And given the numbers of officers that have been turning their backs on the mayor, it would not be very intelligent to try to run them off. Despite the attitudes and rhetoric, NYC needs police to ensure the peace. That place would go to hell in a hand basket pretty quickly without them.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Fired and replaced by people who understand that they serve the city and report to the mayor. Not the other way around.
    Again, given the number of officers that have been turning their backs on the mayor? It would not be very intelligent to try to fire them. First it would only worsen di Blasio's problems with the department and from all sources I can see they can't be fired for expressing their low opinion of the mayor and his speeches. I personally think that at the funeral for the fallen officer was a questionable place to continue the tactic. But emotions are running high. In any case, IMO it would be career suicide for di Blasio to try to fire anyone on the force much less a large contingent of it, at this particular point in time.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by Horace View Post
    Again, given the number of officers that have been turning their backs on the mayor? It would not be very intelligent to try to fire them. First it would only worsen di Blasio's problems with the department and from all sources I can see they can't be fired for expressing their low opinion of the mayor and his speeches. I personally think that at the funeral for the fallen officer was a questionable place to continue the tactic. But emotions are running high. In any case, IMO it would be career suicide for di Blasio to try to fire anyone on the force much less a large contingent of it, at this particular point in time.
    I agree that contractually the mayor probably can't fire them - though frankly making an example of at least some of them is called for. There is no room for disrespect for authority in an organization of people that wield the power that the NYPD does.

    I'm not sure what he can do about it but backing down at this point would be a huge mistake.
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