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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    As a result, what you call disproportional black/police interaction in these communities is actually directly proportional to the amount of crime committed.
    If you're going to insist on saying this, can you show me the statistics that demonstrate this. Maybe I'm wrong.

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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    I think he should have gone. He is their leader and boss, and he was being blamed, erroneously, for their deaths. Though he should have just been there for support and kept quiet, I suppose.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I said "protesting AT a funeral" not "protesting a funeral." Now, would you like to try again by commenting on my actual argument.


    I know what they were protesting. When they did it at the hospital, it was fine. At the funeral, not so much.


    This should be directed at other people because I haven't thrown my support of unionism out of the window. That's why I cringe when people say that the officers who killed Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Akai Gurley, Tamir Rice, et al. should be fired without due process. I think the officers should be fired, but with the due process that unionism secures. You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
    You compared the Westboro Baptist Church protestors to the NYC police officers. The WBC protests the funerals. If you didn't mean to suggest the police were protesting the funeral you shouldn't have tried to compare them to the hateful WBC.

    Your final comment doesn't address the point I made. I'm not surprised, since I know my point to be true and you wouldn't have an answer for it.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    If you're going to insist on saying this, can you show me the statistics that demonstrate this. Maybe I'm wrong.
    Commissioner Kelly defends stop-and-frisk and targeting African-Americans - NY Daily News
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    If you're going to insist on saying this, can you show me the statistics that demonstrate this. Maybe I'm wrong.
    Ignoring the realities of NYC crime | New York Post

    There's two - if you want to view more, there are probably thousands on the internet for you to peruse.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    I wonder: if Deblazio had apologized for his naive coments, would the police officers have turned back around? This was De Blazio's opportunity to start to bridge the gap that has formed between him and those he is tasked with leading. If you are a leader and you choose to speak in that situation, you've got to do better than typical political speak. I saw this as a lost opportunity for him to really step up and be a leader instead of just another politician. Unfortunately, he is a politician and not a leader. It's nothing we didn't know already.

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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't see their actions as being any worse than any of the Ferguson protests. They had a statement they wanted to make, they made it and it was peaceful. All things were supposed to respect when those who are protesting police are doing their thing.
    There's a huge difference. In uniform the officers are acting in their official capacity as police and as such the mayor is their commander. Their free speech are limited in the same way as military officers who cannot publicly criticize their commanders - including the President. The actions of those officers qualifies as insubordination.
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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    di Blasio as mayor is pretty much required to go. The problem lies in the fact that di Blasio destroyed the relationship between himself and NYPD when he was running for mayor. And he has continued to destroy it since then, particularly with the comments he put out in the media about the advise he was giving to his own son. The damage is irreparable and di Blasio clearly has no idea how to repair the damage. An obvious apology will never occur to him to offer. You can't run NYC without the support of the NYPD. IMO di Blasio might as well not even bother running for re-election, in speaking to family and friends in NYC, I am learning his now considered toast. Just my two cents worth.

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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You compared the Westboro Baptist Church protestors to the NYC police officers. The WBC protests the funerals. If you didn't mean to suggest the police were protesting the funeral you shouldn't have tried to compare them to the hateful WBC.

    Your final comment doesn't address the point I made. I'm not surprised, since I know my point to be true and you wouldn't have an answer for it.
    I wrote in my initial comment that I was comparing them on the basis that they both protested AT funerals. I hope that's clear now.

    My final comment directly addressed what you said. I wonder what it is you think I wrote if you disagree.

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    Re: Should de Blasio have Attended Officer Ramos Funeral?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Ignoring the realities of NYC crime | New York Post

    There's two - if you want to view more, there are probably thousands on the internet for you to peruse.
    I'll read these and get back to you later.

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