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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm talking about shifting our focus from being an empire to being a country. nation building in America instead of interventionism abroad.
    Like what?
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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Like what?
    we should be concentrating primarily on rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, massively upgrading our electrical grid, replacing our transportation energy model, and fixing our health care distribution system.

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    we should be concentrating primarily on rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, massively upgrading our electrical grid, replacing our transportation energy model, and fixing our health care distribution system.
    That would shutting up all the environmentalists in prisons, because solar farms based on current technology and windfarms aren't going to cut it.
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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That would shutting up all the environmentalists in prisons, because solar farms based on current technology and windfarms aren't going to cut it.
    because we all know that "current technology" is as good as it's going to get.

    if you're genuinely curious, i also support nuclear energy; preferably thorium technology.

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    because we all know that "current technology" is as good as it's going to get.

    if you're genuinely curious, i also support nuclear energy; preferably thorium technology.
    Sure it's going to get better, but wackos can't wait and demand it be better now, so they protest the construction of nuke plants. They don't know what they're talking about most of the time. When was the last nuke plant built?
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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Sure it's going to get better, but wackos can't wait and demand it be better now, so they protest the construction of nuke plants. They don't know what they're talking about most of the time. When was the last nuke plant built?
    this is another great reason for thorium; no potential meltdowns.

    as for NIMBY crap, the government needs to cut the red tape and just build them. our grid is insufficient, and this is a national security issue.

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    As an individual, I agree.

    However, some things to note: I am a middle aged man. Experience has taught me that I am mortal, and that no man is invincible, and that even the greatest of warriors is only "the greatest" for a limited period of time.

    A young man has not experienced these things yet. You can tell him... perhaps he will even acknowledge the intellectual truth of it... but the courage of his young heart trusts in the might and skill of his limbs, and in his gut he will not truly believe he can fall like any other man... until it happens.

    I know this, because I was a young warrior once.

    A nation in the midst of its strength is like a young man. Wisdom can whisper "you are mortal" in its ear, but it's heart hears only the thunderous glory of its own jets and tanks and guns.
    What you are saying is in essence is that a strong young man cannot control his mind with his intelligence and I am sorry, but again, I disagree with you in the strongest terms. There are three classes of intelligent people. The first class person of intelligence merely hears what is truely right, immediately knows it is right, and does what is right. The second class person hears what is right, but has to see others make mistakes to understand that it is right, and after having seen others make mistakes, he himself does what is right. The third class person with intelligence hears what is truely right, sees others make mistakes, and he himself has to make the mistakes, to learn and do what is right. Now all three of them are intelligent, but of the three, the first class man is the best. Now there is another class. This class of men hears what is truely right, sees others make mistakes, he makes the same mistakes, but yet he continues to do what IS NOT right. That is a fool. The problem with arrogance is that if it is not abandoned, over time it will make one a fool. So what you described is a man of intelligence, and that is indeed to be commended, but it is not the truely exceptional, first class case. To be truely exceptional, individuals and nations, must abandon arrogance.

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    There is a saying that pride proceeds the fall. It is one thing for a country to aggressively pursue it's self interests. However, it is another thing when it seeks to impose a set of decadent moral values on people who do not want to take part. That is symptom of an underlying arrogance. Has the power made the US too arrogant?
    Arrogance is not imposing your values on others, that would be Tyranny, which is more of our internal politics, not external. Externally, we are arrogant, but not TOO arrogant. We ARE better than everywhere else, politically. And so a bit of arrogance is expected. We are also extremely tolerant and giving.

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yup, we need to be knocked down a notch or two.

    We elected a leftist dumbass in 2008 and 2012 for that very purpose

    How DARE we adhere to this exceptional mindset given our horrible, horrible , horrible , horrible past ...
    ROFLMAO!!!!

    I actually enjoyed that one!!!!

    "A" for you brother!!!!

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    My experience with people saying public goods are misguided is that they are using it as an excuse to deflect having to pay their fair share, while letting their competitor pay for the policing costs.

    In the case of the Iraq war it was worse. There the protestations were so made that they so obviously made the invasion more probable that it is hardly believable that Putin did not structure his strategy with that in mind. Both he and Chirac were professedly dedicated to driving the world towards multipolarization and their game plan fit that perfectly. Schröder was mainly interested in his then upcoming election and perhaps his future job had already been indicated. Also, if you want to think about it, the change in politics in Germany and France seem to indicate that the political elites of these two countries, though, not necessarily the populations realized how counterproductive the policy had been.
    That's interesting. Had not thought about is like that before. I need some time to try and digest that before I can say anything.

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