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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    God Yes. After 1945 it the US became a neo-imperialist power. Spreading "democracy and freedom" via far right wing dictatorships. Then once the 60's came around it seemed we becamse the policemen of the world. Having to stop popular left wing governments, and then the 80's and 90's came around with neoliberalism and globalization, then the war turned to "we need natural resources". Then the 2000's came around and yea now we are in a never ending "war on terror" while also being the policemen of the world deeming what civil wars are "popular revolutions" and which ones are "bad revolution" intervening where we want and watching bloodbaths where we ant. We are quite arrogant and the chickens always come home too roost. We have seen them come home to roost several times, dont know when the next time is, and its never good.


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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    No. Astonishingly, it has made us weirdly timid.

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    we need a new national mission statement that involves making nation building here a top priority, as well as a complete foreign policy redesign.
    What the heck are you talking about?
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    God Yes. After 1945 it the US became a neo-imperialist power. Spreading "democracy and freedom" via far right wing dictatorships. Then once the 60's came around it seemed we becamse the policemen of the world. Having to stop popular left wing governments, and then the 80's and 90's came around with neoliberalism and globalization, then the war turned to "we need natural resources". Then the 2000's came around and yea now we are in a never ending "war on terror" while also being the policemen of the world deeming what civil wars are "popular revolutions" and which ones are "bad revolution" intervening where we want and watching bloodbaths where we ant. We are quite arrogant and the chickens always come home too roost. We have seen them come home to roost several times, dont know when the next time is, and its never good.
    It's a wonder you can stand another minute here.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What the heck are you talking about?
    i'm talking about shifting our focus from being an empire to being a country. nation building in America instead of interventionism abroad.

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's a wonder you can stand another minute here.
    Dont know what that means, but ok.


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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm talking about shifting our focus from being an empire to being a country. nation building in America instead of interventionism abroad.
    You unpatriotic turd!


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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Before answering a question, I must first ask a question, and I would LIKE at least an attempt at an honest answer...from anyone willing to try for it.


    Imagine a world where there WAS no USA. Just an empty expanse of ocean between south america and canada.


    Where, in such a world, would everyone be? Better off? Worse off? Think about it in historical context, and give it a serious go around in the old noodle.


    And then answer THIS question...is it arrogance to simply acknowledge one's perception of the truth?
    USA capitalism has developed the economies of many Nations by secondary and tertiary interaction.
    I do ont think the USA has attempted to spread freedom and democracy, more like oppression and
    resource rape. If it has secondary benefits to the population we are interacting with, it is only because
    it is profitting our Vulture Corporations. Along comes the CIA, chartered to help USA Corporations
    overseas, and does precisely that and becomes a type of partner with the Corporate groups it is always
    assisting. Mission creep and now the CIA is in bed with USSA MultiNational Corporate elites, has huge
    black budgets from the US Treasury Exchange Stabilization Fund, access to NSA snoop data on all the
    World's banks as a result of deploying PROMIS software with a back door in every major financial
    Institution, has enough budget to manipulate currencies and destroy small Nations, operates its' own
    Military warriors, operates the Drone program, insinuates its' agents in major financial (banks, hedge
    funds) and MSM corporates and all while the citizens think the CIA is collecting and analyzing data.
    Full Sprecrum Dominance means just what it says and means more than military dominance. Think
    financial dominance (IMF, World Bank, WTO, NATO, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, etc.) worldwide
    as a weapon and watch Ukraine and Russia. The citizens don't get to vote on or OK any of these
    programs that benefit the MultiNational Elite CORPORATIONS. This is an attempt at World domination
    using Central Banks and Investment Banks. It's really working for the 1% of the 1%, don't ya' know.

    It it doesn't work, the USA economy collapses. That's simple economics.

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The problem is that sometimes what we do is misguided, and when others try to tell us it is misguided, as in the case of the Iraq war, we do not listen.
    My experience with people saying public goods are misguided is that they are using it as an excuse to deflect having to pay their fair share, while letting their competitor pay for the policing costs.

    In the case of the Iraq war it was worse. There the protestations were so made that they so obviously made the invasion more probable that it is hardly believable that Putin did not structure his strategy with that in mind. Both he and Chirac were professedly dedicated to driving the world towards multipolarization and their game plan fit that perfectly. Schröder was mainly interested in his then upcoming election and perhaps his future job had already been indicated. Also, if you want to think about it, the change in politics in Germany and France seem to indicate that the political elites of these two countries, though, not necessarily the populations realized how counterproductive the policy had been.

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    Re: Has the superpower status made the US too arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Dont know what that means, but ok.
    I think you do know what I meant. I'm surprised you haven't moved to a more Utopian country like Canada or Norway.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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