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    Re: Do Conservatives Believe In Personal Responsibility Only When It Suits Them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    What statements can you cite from “hate mongers on right wing talk radio” inciting hatred and violence in any manner comparable to what certain prominent individuals on the wrong, such as Sharpton, have been doing?
    Oh for crying out loud. A Klansman uses less inflammatory language about blacks than a guy like Mark Levin uses about liberals.
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    Re: Do Conservatives Believe In Personal Responsibility Only When It Suits Them?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Brown is one thing, but in the case of Eric Garner just about everyone to the left of the Klan questioned the police tactics.
    To be fair, I and people like me questioned the government/city council crackdown and orders to police to strictly enforce against illegal cigarette sales that led to this unfortunate incident. If governments and city councils weren't so dependent on nickel and diming average citizens to constantly feed their hunger to spend, the Garner incident would likely have not happened. But I and people like me do not fault police for what appeared to be a lawful arrest and for what Garner escalated into his own death.
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    Re: Do Conservatives Believe In Personal Responsibility Only When It Suits Them?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Recently two NYPD Officers were killed by a crazy person. Based on how conservatives are blaming Al Sharpton and Mayor de Blasio but not the actual killer I'm gonna have to say yes.
    Well THAT was certainly a well thought out evidence based hypothesis.

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    Re: Do Conservatives Believe In Personal Responsibility Only When It Suits Them?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Recently two NYPD Officers were killed by a crazy person. Based on how conservatives are blaming Al Sharpton and Mayor de Blasio but not the actual killer I'm gonna have to say yes.
    A dumb poll.
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    Re: Do Conservatives Believe In Personal Responsibility Only When It Suits Them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    With all due respect, comment from people like Sharpton, de Blasio, Holder and Obama encourage the idea that black youth are not personally responsible for the behaviors which lead to incidents like Garner and Brown. They instead put that blame on the police. Maybe if they encouraged a little personal responsibility in the lives of the people they're talking to we'd see less crap like this.
    Obama has advocated personal responsibility in the Black community. Perhaps you were so busy screaming to see his birth certificate to hear him mention it?
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    Re: Do Conservatives Believe In Personal Responsibility Only When It Suits Them?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Loaded bait question at best. Since you cannot even get liberals and conservatives to agree on what "personal responsibility" is, there is zero expectation you can get them to agree on how to apply the concept.
    The cons mean that personal responsibility means - no welfare, no unemployment checks, no unions, no free education.

    But it's all God's will, so you're not responsible anyway.
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    Re: Do Conservatives Believe In Personal Responsibility Only When It Suits Them?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    To be fair, I and people like me questioned the government/city council crackdown and orders to police to strictly enforce against illegal cigarette sales that led to this unfortunate incident. If governments and city councils weren't so dependent on nickel and diming average citizens to constantly feed their hunger to spend, the Garner incident would likely have not happened. But I and people like me do not fault police for what appeared to be a lawful arrest and for what Garner escalated into his own death.
    The man was choked to death by a police officer while being arrested for selling singles out of a pack of cigarettes. Mind you, that choke hold they are not even supposed to use. Yet you don't fault the police on that one?
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    Re: Do Conservatives Believe In Personal Responsibility Only When It Suits Them?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The cons mean that personal responsibility means - no welfare, no unemployment checks, no unions, no free education.

    But it's all God's will, so you're not responsible anyway.
    That's not accurate at all. Cons see no problem with welfare for the truly needy, or unemployment, or unions even where needed. Conservatives have a problem with promotion of welfare in a seemingly unlimited supply and quantity, see a problem with unions where they are used as political fund raising machines instead of actually protecting workers. The progressive view of using any organization to promote more dependency on hand outs is a problem - there is middle ground where reasonable people can agree on the use and administration of all types of welfare as long as there is a job at the end of the use and not simply more welfare bribes for democratic votes.
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    Re: Do Conservatives Believe In Personal Responsibility Only When It Suits Them?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Obama has advocated personal responsibility in the Black community. Perhaps you were so busy screaming to see his birth certificate to hear him mention it?
    What Obama does is configure his remarks according to the audience he targets.
    If he's talking to a broad-range audience he'll say "blah blah blah" but "yadda yadda yadda" to make sure he's got it all covered.
    If he's talking to a "special" group he'll say things like "we can't get to single payer right away".
    So there's no telling what he told Sharpton during any of his WH visits.

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    Re: Do Conservatives Believe In Personal Responsibility Only When It Suits Them?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The man was choked to death by a police officer while being arrested for selling singles out of a pack of cigarettes. Mind you, that choke hold they are not even supposed to use. Yet you don't fault the police on that one?
    You'd be surprised at how many YouTube videos I watched yesterday involving police brutality, and how many officers took people down, and held them by their necks while other officers either jumped on the person or flogged them into submission with their clubs.

    I did some looking around to see if I could find out how many citizens died at the hands of police officers, but according to links, congress in 2004 ordered the FBI not to gather statistics on that, instead, easily found were stats on how many officers died in the line of duty, weird huh?

    I believe the USA Today reported that around 400 citizens lost their lives in 2014 so far, at the hands of police officers. It also stated that police brutality is up, and on the rise over the past two decades.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...data/14060357/

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