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  • Total separation from all levels of government. All education privatized.

    26 3.86%
  • Total separation except for cities.

    35 5.19%
  • Total separation except for counties.

    47 6.97%
  • Total separation except for cities and counties.

    51 7.57%
  • Total separation except for states.

    68 10.09%
  • Separation except for states and cities

    48 7.12%
  • Separation except for states and counties

    55 8.16%
  • Separation from federal government only.

    49 7.27%
  • No separation

    216 32.05%
  • Other (specify)

    79 11.72%
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    Re: Separation of Education and State

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Hardly. See, I grew up in all private schools and if you didn't make the grades, if you misbehaved, if you did anything they didn't like, you were out on your ass. Now I can't speak to your particular school, but for pretty much every one I've encountered, they all work the same way. It isn't that they have better teaching methods, they just congregate the best students in the same place.
    Nonsense. If you misbehave or do what they don't like in public school what do you think happens? You're expelled. Which means you have to find another school that will take you, and failing that you go to the district's warehouse school. No, private schools do NOT operate in all the same ways as one another. There are a ton of differences, flavors and competencies. That's why we shopped around. And yes, many, at least in our area do indeed have better teaching methods, much smaller class sizes and non union teachers that care deeply about their students' education.

    Btw, not even close to wealthy.

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    Re: Separation of Education and State

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Excellent. Your state government is the appropriate venue. Congress has no power to enact laws pertaining to how the people of the states educate their children.
    We better alert... somebody. Why, once this flagrant abuse has been made known, it'll be stopped immediately.


    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nonsense. If you misbehave or do what they don't like in public school what do you think happens? You're expelled. Which means you have to find another school that will take you, and failing that you go to the district's warehouse school. No, private schools do NOT operate in all the same ways as one another. There are a ton of differences, flavors and competencies. That's why we shopped around. And yes, many, at least in our area do indeed have better teaching methods, much smaller class sizes and non union teachers that care deeply about their students' education.

    Btw, not even close to wealthy.
    It takes a lot to get to that point in a public school.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Separation of Education and State

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Please demonstrate this assertion with actual facts. Also please explain why you mean by "indoctrination", as I suspect that it's really just a political distinction based on the fact that real history and science don't back up conservative viewpoints.
    I really should not have to explain it to you. Two examples are guns and bibles. The zero tolerance policy on guns is insane. If a child points his finger at another student and says: "bang", the child can be suspended or expelled offered mental health counseling. Same if a child bites his pop tart into the shape of a gun...or scribbles a picture of a gun. Most big city public schools also treat the Holy Bible as contraband. That is indoctrination.

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    Separation of Education and State

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Excellent. Your state government is the appropriate venue. Congress has no power to enact laws pertaining to how the people of the states educate their children.
    I don't know why you say that. They do, and I help advise with some of those federal policies.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Separation of Education and State

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    How long are you going to ask these Don Quixote-like questions as if they're actually relevant?
    That is a ludicrous comeback.

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    Re: Separation of Education and State

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    We better alert... somebody. Why, once this flagrant abuse has been made known, it'll be stopped immediately.
    I said that congress has no power to enact laws pertaining to how the people of the states educate their children. Are you saying that the constitution grants congress this power?

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    Re: Separation of Education and State

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Perhaps you should do a bit more reading before you try that victory lap.

    United States Department of Education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    That is the modern department of education. Office of Education - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Office of Education, at times known as the Department of Education and the Bureau of Education, was a small unit in the Federal Government of the United States within the U.S. Department of the Interior from 1867 to 1972.
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    Re: Separation of Education and State

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I said that congress has no power to enact laws pertaining to how the people of the states educate their children. Are you saying that the constitution grants congress this power?
    Yup. They do.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Separation of Education and State

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    That is a ludicrous comeback.
    Less ludicrous than arguing a point few on the political spectrum agree with and no governmental level follows.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Separation of Education and State

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I don't know why you say that.
    I say that because congress has no power to enact laws pertaining to how the people of the states educate their children.

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