View Poll Results: Land Use Regulations on Your Own Property

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  • Extremely important--The top priority.

    24 4.55%
  • Very important--Close to top.

    33 6.26%
  • Important, but several others come first (specify).

    23 4.36%
  • Of some importance.

    41 7.78%
  • Doesn't matter much.

    69 13.09%
  • I like some regulations (specify).

    133 25.24%
  • I like a restricted neighborhood (specify)

    204 38.71%
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    Re: Land Use Regulations on your own property.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I really wonder about the stability of the 30 that love restrictions.
    I wonder about the stability of people who think you should be able to operate an unshielded nuclear reactor on your property.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Land Use Regulations on your own property.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I wonder about the stability of people who think you should be able to operate an unshielded nuclear reactor on your property.
    Oh, extremism. Nice. How about I just want to change my oil without someone calling the HOA or put whatever drapes up I want?

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    Re: Land Use Regulations on your own property.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Such a pretty picture. But in many regions government restrictions and regulations on how small scale farmers use their land and don't use it has forced them out and instead you should post a picture of a huge corporate "farm." The age of the barn in your picture tells the story. YOUR side basically has outlawed that farm. So YOU really should show a picture of rows of metal sheds with migrant workers working the for the corporation.
    Thats funny you should say that, being that farm is in Ponca, AR, technically on National Park land. Its a private family farm on National Park. There are several such farms there.

    Moreover, thats a ridiculous argument you are making. Any environmental regulations applicable to a small farm are also applicable to a very large corporate farm as well. The reason why there are less small farms is simply capitalism at work. Large farms are more efficient, and thus buy out smaller farmers.
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    Re: Land Use Regulations on your own property.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Yes, the tract homes of suburban are perfect. The diversity of styles and artist natures of older urban areas suck. Those areas should be required to standardize or bulldoze it all down. NO ORGINALITY OR INDIVIDUAL CREATIVE. It's offense. It is the job of the majority via government to require conformity to set a universal standard of living and appearances. Liberals want universally enforced standards to force compliance to the will of the majority. No surprise.

    The zoning nazis who declare that "property values" are a constitutional right, for which they can tell you the color to paint your house and what plants you must have and may not have in your yard.

    Really, there should be a universal standard how people dress too to maintain the quality of the appearance of the community.
    Its liberals that are behind POAs???? I suggest you look at the voting records of those cookie cutter McMansion suburbs. I doubt even 1 in 10 such communities vote Democrat. Liberals live in the cities themselves, and the inner ring burbs, very, very few cookie cutter developments there and hardly ever any POAs.
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    Re: Land Use Regulations on your own property.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    Not at all. If we did not have laws on the books regarding the individual right to buy and hold a deed to land combined with a government strong enough to enforce the individuals right to use the land, it would be a free for all. The same people who deride government and regulations wouldn't have **** w/o them.
    What you claim makes a point doesn't. In fact, it is fundamental contradiction to claim because "the government" protects people's land, therefore really it's the government's land; therefore meaning the government isn't protecting anyone's land but it's own.

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    Re: Land Use Regulations on your own property.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Its liberals that are behind POAs???? I suggest you look at the voting records of those cookie cutter McMansion suburbs. I doubt even 1 in 10 such communities vote Democrat. Liberals live in the cities themselves, and the inner ring burbs, very, very few cookie cutter developments there and hardly ever any POAs.
    Absolutely it is the further right and further left who both want to control what isn't theirs. For Suburbanites the chant is "property values!" like it is in the BIll of RIghts and one of the commandments of the Bible. If anyone hurts their property value that person is a criminal.

    For the left, it is about controlling aesthetics - and often property values too.

    It is destructive. I could give many examples from here and around the country. Elsewhere? Madison Wisconsin, ubber liberal. There are blocks and blocks of big 2 and 3 story houses around the Capital and University - very old homes of the once very wealthy and still high dollar real estate. All are wooden homes. Fairly ordinarly looking other than BIG.

    Except the are NOT wood homes. They are brick and stone homes. However, property taxes are SO high on brick and stone homes that people covered them over with wood and made them look cheaper to drive down their value to reduce property taxes.

    Around here, many people will NOT maintain the exterior of their homes and want the fence half falling down, paint bad, driveway cracked and the rest to keep their property taxes from not increasing too much. Every year, property tax people not only do Google earth looking at every property, but also WALK everyone's yards and search for construction permits, any permits for electrical work, to find anyway to up the valuation on the home. The majority here are on fixed income and are seniors, so they need to make the outside of their house looked old and worn, and dare not do ANYTHING outside to give any reason to raise their home aprraisal.

    Between the general decline in real estate in Florida and people deliberately doing no improvements, as the value of property declines further and further, the tax appraisal and collection office has become increasingly desperate. They all but set out a SWAT team when it was reported taht someone was claiming homestead exemption was instead leasing out the house.

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    Re: Land Use Regulations on your own property.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Thats funny you should say that, being that farm is in Ponca, AR, technically on National Park land. Its a private family farm on National Park. There are several such farms there.

    Moreover, thats a ridiculous argument you are making. Any environmental regulations applicable to a small farm are also applicable to a very large corporate farm as well. The reason why there are less small farms is simply capitalism at work. Large farms are more efficient, and thus buy out smaller farmers.
    Ah, so the government has already seized that farm and now are leasing their own land back to the farmers.

    OK, we've heard your sales pitch for corporate takeovers.

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    Re: Land Use Regulations on your own property.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Alaska is what you're looking for. They have plenty of land that has no taxes, plenty of resources and absolutely no building codes or regs.
    Not true, especially if you want to be connected to a road system. Wetlands mitigation is a b****, among others. There are indeed property taxes and building codes and regulations. Not absolutely everywhere but most places all but the most independent,resourceful and industrious would consider building.

    - Rural AK property owner
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    Re: Land Use Regulations on your own property.

    The longer I'm in popular American culture, see the media and such as read this forum, the more I find myself going to the right on all but some key social issues.

    What I have learned is just how much contempt and borderline hatred those who see themselves as the enlightened left have for ordinary people. They don't care if someone works his whole life for their home for their old age and then loses it to new regulations. They spew incessant accusations at them calling the bigots and ignorant, when all they are doing it living their lives and trying to pay their bills at the end of the month.

    The left doesn't help people. It tries to profit off the votes of minorities and poor people, tries to buy votes and tries to gain power. Little else. But I have also seen there isn't a niclek's difference between the elitists on the left and the elitists on the right. They both want exactly the same, but use opposite reasons for the same goals. Power. Control. Self declared superiority. Arrogance. Ego mania.
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    Re: Land Use Regulations on your own property.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That's entirely false. What you posted were the international codes that some Alaska cities and towns have adopted. Beyond city limits they do not apply. There is a whole of land available beyond city/town borders. There are no state zoning/building codes. Have you ever even been there?
    Alaska Building Codes

    The building codes listed below apply as a mandatory minimum for all buildings except 1, 2, or 3 family dwellings, unless otherwise indicated.
    Plans for all construction (except 1, 2, or 3 family dwellings) are reviewed at the state level except in the cities of Anchorage, Juneau, Fairbanks, Kenai, Seward, Kodiak, Sitka,and Soldotna. Plans for these cities should be submitted directly to the city.

    Authorities Having Jurisdiction are those government officials who are the final authority on questions in a particular area (or jurisdiction).
    Lmao... what? How do you come up with these blatant lies on what is in the law and what isn't? Alaska has building codes for land that isn't within city limits. They're legislated by the state. It's actually cities which also have their own laws and ordinances. The state of Alaska does have laws regulating what is built how. To state otherwise is simply dishonest.
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