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Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contr to the deaths of 2 Police officers? [W:68, W:433]

Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?


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Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Only 61 times! Man how could people ever get the idea Obama's a huge fan when Sharpton's only visited 61 times? I just dont know.
How in the world can any President become subservient to someone visiting the White House--and I could care less how many times they visited, too?

Goodness sakes. John Boehner visited the White House almost 50 times and President Obama and him still don't see eye to eye. White House Visitor Records Requests
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Al isn't the reason. What happened is.

Al Sharpton is a racist bigot. He may not have directly caused any of this, but he's certainly making things worse by stirring up the pot.

And to the Original Poster: Your poll is misguiding. I am a centrist who leans right, however, my political affiliations are irrelevant to Al Sharpton's bigotry.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Al Sharpton is a racist bigot. He may not have directly caused any of this, but he's certainly making things worse by stirring up the pot.

And to the Original Poster: Your poll is misguiding. I am a centrist who leans right, however, my political affiliations are irrelevant to Al Sharpton's bigotry.

I don't care whether he is or isn't. That doesn't make him responsible.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

I don't care whether he is or isn't. That doesn't make him responsible.

Yes it does. By stirring the pot it incites violence. To deny that is merely denying reality. A public figure they love and trust (for some messed up reason) is making this a racial issue. Obviously some people are going to take matters into their own hands.

I hope this helped clear up your confusion.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

And you use the failing leftist rag NY Times as a source?

When you get a clue, perhaps you could be taken seriously. I have strong doubts that will occur in the near future. Indoctrination will likely take a long time to overcome, if it's ever possible.

Happy New Year!

Its certainly more reliable than some random blog no one has ever heard of, and at least they cite their sources...

You just make my point even more with those zero rebuttals, probably because you have nothing credible behind yours...

I love how all you have is insults with no substance or coroboratable fact, the right has pulled the left to the center, their is no leftism any more really...

Haha yea right I'm the indoctrinated one... In reality I don't like either party, I just know the dems are the slightly less evil...
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Yes it does. By stirring the pot it incites violence. To deny that is merely denying reality. A public figure they love and trust (for some messed up reason) is making this a racial issue. Obviously some people are going to take matters into their own hands.

I hope this helped clear up your confusion.

Ummmm maybe because these ARE racial issues?

and for the love of god he's calling for peaceful protests. He cannot control what others do.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Ummmm maybe because these ARE racial issues?

and for the love of god he's calling for peaceful protests. He cannot control what others do.

Haha they are not racial issues. What a ridiculous statement. They were BREAKING THE LAW when confronted by police. They weren't randomly shot because they were black. What a racist way of thinking.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Haha they are not racial issues. What a ridiculous statement. They were BREAKING THE LAW when confronted by police. They weren't randomly shot because they were black. What a racist way of thinking.
Hilariously untrue.

So you think if they where white they would have been attacked in this vicious manner? I think not...

Thinking factually is not racist... Actually thinking its not a racial issue is kinda racist... Its to deny the problems minorities disproportionately have with police every day.

FYI garner was not shot, he was choked to the point of fibrillation. He said "I can't breathe" 17 times, and its on video. I don't care what he did, that's brutality. Plus it ain't like he was running, he was trying to talk to em...
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Hilariously untrue.

So you think if they where white they would have been attacked in this vicious manner? I think not...

Thinking factually is not racist... Actually thinking its not a racial issue is kinda racist... Its to deny the problems minorities disproportionately have with police every day.

FYI garner was not shot, he was choked to the point of fibrillation. He said "I can't breathe" 17 times, and its on video. I don't care what he did, that's brutality. Plus it ain't like he was running, he was trying to talk to em...

First off, you just made a racist statement. Their skin color had nothing to do with anything. They broke the law...hell, Brown even tried to disarm and kill a cop!!! The fact that you think there's somehow a race issue is insane.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

First off, you just made a racist statement. Their skin color had nothing to do with anything. They broke the law...hell, Brown even tried to disarm and kill a cop!!! The fact that you think there's somehow a race issue is insane.

Hilarious. Their skin color has to do with the way police mistreat them. There is nothing racist about stating that FACT.

The witness evidence says brown did not go for the gun. It also says the officer was harassing and assaulting him for no reason.

The race issue comes in when the police start assaulting people before talking to them, as they did in both instances. They do not do this to whites. Breaking the law is irrelevant to the conversation.

For example, here in philly a few years back three young black men where beaten savagely by PPD. They had just shot somebody. They where already handcuffed though, and beaten in the street by 10 or 15 officers for 10 or 15 minutes. Is this sort of police behavior OK just because they broke the law? Absolutely not.

Most black people would call you racist for saying there is no race issue...
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Hilarious. Their skin color has to do with the way police mistreat them. There is nothing racist about stating that FACT.

The witness evidence says brown did not go for the gun. It also says the officer was harassing and assaulting him for no reason.

The race issue comes in when the police start assaulting people before talking to them, as they did in both instances. They do not do this to whites. Breaking the law is irrelevant to the conversation.

For example, here in philly a few years back three young black men where beaten savagely by PPD. They had just shot somebody. They where already handcuffed though, and beaten in the street by 10 or 15 officers for 10 or 15 minutes. Is this sort of police behavior OK just because they broke the law? Absolutely not.

Most black people would call you racist for saying there is no race issue...

You are calling this man a racist police officer, that's what you're saying? How well do you know Wilson?

Also, you asked why Al Sharpton is racist? When he makes statements such as this:
“White folks was in the caves while we [blacks] was building empires … We built pyramids before Donald Trump ever knew what architecture was … we taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it." -- Al Sharpton

25 Examples of Liberal Racism in Quotes - John Hawkins - Page full!

This man is a bigot. Anyone who believes any of this is race-related is bigoted, as this was about thugs breaking the law.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

You are calling this man a racist police officer, that's what you're saying? How well do you know Wilson?

Also, you asked why Al Sharpton is racist? When he makes statements such as this:
“White folks was in the caves while we [blacks] was building empires … We built pyramids before Donald Trump ever knew what architecture was … we taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it." -- Al Sharpton

25 Examples of Liberal Racism in Quotes - John Hawkins - Page full!

This man is a bigot. Anyone who believes any of this is race-related is bigoted, as this was about thugs breaking the law.

All police are racist. They are racist against anything not blue. In philly they arrest way more blacks for small amounts of weed than whites, even though whites smoke just as much.

Yes sharpton said some crazy things back in the day, that does not make him a bigot. And to a extent what he's saying is true. Black people where building pyramids when whites where just getting west...

He is bigoted against gays, but that's fairly irrelevant to a race discussion. And furthermore so are most of the cons calling him a bigot.

And based on where Wilson is from, the fact he took money from the KKK, and the police department he is part of, you can rest assure he is at least a little racist, and probably allot.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

I got to call you out US Conservative. Where does Al Sharpton go around directly calling for the deaths of police officers over this year of 2014? And you're incorrect about Jared Loughner being a leftist. As a matter of fact it appears that he leaned more to the right of political thinking. LINK

I dont think anyone cares whom you feel you need to call out but in any case I did not say he directly called for the deaths, and worded the op and the poll question accordingly. Please feel free to read them.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Hilarious. Their skin color has to do with the way police mistreat them. There is nothing racist about stating that FACT.

The witness evidence says brown did not go for the gun. It also says the officer was harassing and assaulting him for no reason.

Its remarkable to me that you don't even know the basic facts of the case you are going on and on again about. Many witnesses are discredited, and they are a notoriously poor bit of evidence (obviously), but the hard forensic evidence places brown leaning into the car with his hand near the officers gun.

In the sunshine-liberal story of the shooting, there is no way that could have happened. In reality there is, there is.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Hilarious. Their skin color has to do with the way police mistreat them. There is nothing racist about stating that FACT.

The witness evidence says brown did not go for the gun. It also says the officer was harassing and assaulting him for no reason.

Its remarkable to me that you don't even know the basic facts of the case you are going on and on again about. Many witnesses are discredited, and they are a notoriously poor bit of evidence (obviously), but the hard forensic evidence places brown leaning into the car with his hand near the officers gun.

In the sunshine-liberal story of the shooting, there is no way that could have happened. In reality there is, there is.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

The really sad thing about this is that Sharpton, Jackson, and even Holder exist as the only visible alternatives to the New Black Panther Party as leaders in the discussion of race relations in this country. There are more reasonable and less self-serving voices out there - they're just refused the media platform the above mentioned people enjoy.

I'm becoming very interested in what Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke has to say.

 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

And what was that?


Shooting an unarmed black man. Then the community reaction to that.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Its certainly more reliable than some random blog no one has ever heard of, and at least they cite their sources...

You just make my point even more with those zero rebuttals, probably because you have nothing credible behind yours...

I love how all you have is insults with no substance or coroboratable fact, the right has pulled the left to the center, their is no leftism any more really...

Haha yea right I'm the indoctrinated one... In reality I don't like either party, I just know the dems are the slightly less evil...

LOL

The NY Times is more reliable, just because you say so? If you hadn't heard of this "random blog" how do you know it isn't reliable?

Do you read your posts? Consider the above. That makes no sense.

Your problem is you are presenting arguments that are at least 10 years old. You are way behind the debate on illegal aliens.

When the minority communities demand something be done about jobs, they should knock on President Obama's door and ask him to explain why he screwed over the Black Community when he sold them out to illegal aliens who have taken their jobs, and now can do it legally.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Its remarkable to me that you don't even know the basic facts of the case you are going on and on again about. Many witnesses are discredited, and they are a notoriously poor bit of evidence (obviously), but the hard forensic evidence places brown leaning into the car with his hand near the officers gun.

In the sunshine-liberal story of the shooting, there is no way that could have happened. In reality there is, there is.

Actually the forensic evidence can go either way on that. He could have been putting his hands up close to the window after Wilson grabbed him, and gotten his finger blown off at point blank that way.

Forensic evidence cannot be examined in a vacuum. You must examine it along with witness testimony. To do otherwise is wrought with fallacy.

Really? Many witnesses are discredited? The only one I know of being fully discredited is the one that supported Wilson (witness 40) which other ones where proven to have given false testimony?
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

I would say Sharpton exacerbated the situation between the police and the protesters, that he made resolving and correcting the perceived problem worse. I do not think the mental case that shot the two police needed any encouragement from Sharpton or the protesters. That he had already made up his mind what he was going to do. Perhaps the timing and place might have been different or not without Ferguson and NYC and all the rioting, burning and protests, but the killer was going to do what he was going to do.

In plain English, Sharpton is responsible for making the situation worse between the police and the black population, but he did not have anything to do with egging on or being responsible for what the mental case criminal did.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

All police are racist. They are racist against anything not blue. In philly they arrest way more blacks for small amounts of weed than whites, even though whites smoke just as much.

Yes sharpton said some crazy things back in the day, that does not make him a bigot. And to a extent what he's saying is true. Black people where building pyramids when whites where just getting west...

He is bigoted against gays, but that's fairly irrelevant to a race discussion. And furthermore so are most of the cons calling him a bigot.

And based on where Wilson is from, the fact he took money from the KKK, and the police department he is part of, you can rest assure he is at least a little racist, and probably allot.

There mere fact that you said what he said is true, makes you incredibly racist, therefore I will not further debate with you. I, like a lot of Americans, don't see color. I see other citizens.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

LOL

The NY Times is more reliable, just because you say so? If you hadn't heard of this "random blog" how do you know it isn't reliable?

Do you read your posts? Consider the above. That makes no sense.

Your problem is you are presenting arguments that are at least 10 years old. You are way behind the debate on illegal aliens.

When the minority communities demand something be done about jobs, they should knock on President Obama's door and ask him to explain why he screwed over the Black Community when he sold them out to illegal aliens who have taken their jobs, and now can do it legally.

It's more reliable because it is a massively syndicated source, and furthermore they at least tell you where the information came from, as apposed to that no name blog post.

These arguments where right ten years ago, and are still right now. The nytimes article is from 2013 so I dunno why your saying its a out of date argument... I have no idea what your talking about when you say I am behind, unless you mean I am behind on bs right wing talking points, that do not line up with facts, or make sense...

Your just wrong. They make higher paying jobs for Americans

In states with more undocumented immigrants, Peri said, skilled workers made more money and worked more hours; the economy’s productivity grew. From 1990 to 2007, undocumented workers increased legal workers’ pay in complementary jobs by up to 10 percent.
from the nytimes article


The answer to fixing the job market is at least regulating capitalism, or preferably implementing socialism where everything is owned by the people through various forms of coops. Stopping illegal aliens will do nothing for the job market, as nobody wants these jobs. It would make it much harder for the average family to live, because food prices would skyrocket. 77% of farm workers are not native born, most of them are illegals, what would we do without them? The answer is out source food from other country's. This would result in american farmers loosing there jobs, less healthy/fresh food, and a even more unstable food system.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

There mere fact that you said what he said is true, makes you incredibly racist, therefore I will not further debate with you. I, like a lot of Americans, don't see color. I see other citizens.
Haha yea right I'm racist... The white hebrew guy... Your funny man...

So its not true that blacks where building pyramids and discovering math when whites where just getting west? (although we where not really in caves) you have a very interesting take on history if you don't believe that...

Sureeeee your not racist, you just don't think blacks are justified in showing their indignation based on a racist system... That makes SOOOO much sense...
 
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