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Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contr to the deaths of 2 Police officers? [W:68, W:433]

Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

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Bodhisattva said:
...and they are loony tunes. Admitting the truth is very scary for some because then they would actually have to think instead of just react.
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Imagine if the tables were turned and a "white civil rights leader" with a long history of inciting violence led protests where people chanted they wanted to see dead black people, and then a week later 2 blacks were assassinated by a guy who said he did it based on their skin color.

Would the left be up in arms? Of course they would but here its crickets.
 
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Peter King said:
You sure? If these illegal immigrants are not going to pick the crops then who will? The US unemployed? Not really, even in situations of higher unemployment a lot of farmers would not be able to harvest what the planted without illegal immigrants.
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Yup Im sure. The rest of the world has legal and highly scrutinized legal immigration, and if not for the politics we would as well. Even if that means lettuce costs another 14 cents.
 
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US Conservative said:
Yup Im sure. The rest of the world has legal and highly scrutinized legal immigration, and if not for the politics we would as well. Even if that means lettuce costs another 14 cents.
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But the reality is that you can not do that without a large increase of immigrants, or legalize the illegals who are living in the US already because if you close the border and do not increase the number of legal immigrants for agricultural purposes you will not pay 14 cents more for lettuce, then you would pay a lot more and a lot of the crops would not be harvested and would be rotting in the fields.

In dozens of interviews, farmers and owners of related businesses said that even the current system of tacitly using illegal labor was failing to sustain them. A work force that arrived in the 1990s is aging out of heavy labor, Americans do not want the jobs, and tightened security at the border is discouraging new immigrants from arriving, they say, leaving them to struggle amid the paralysis on immigration policy.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/us/california-farmers-short-of-labor-and-patience.html
 
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Peter King said:
But the reality is that you can not do that without a large increase of immigrants, or legalize the illegals who are living in the US already because if you close the border and do not increase the number of legal immigrants for agricultural purposes you will not pay 14 cents more for lettuce, then you would pay a lot more and a lot of the crops would not be harvested and would be rotting in the fields.



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/us/california-farmers-short-of-labor-and-patience.html
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I wont be held hostage to agricultural interests, in exchange for saving 14 cents-if they can't operate within the law they need to adapt or be replaced by a business model that will.

That said, I think we are veering off course, lets focus on Sharptons race baiting and its resulting in dead cops.
 
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US Conservative said:
Imagine if the tables were turned and a "white civil rights leader" with a long history of inciting violence led protests where people chanted they wanted to see dead black people, and then a week later 2 blacks were assassinated by a guy who said he did it based on their skin color.

Would the left be up in arms? Of course they would but here its crickets.
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Racism and violence are allowed if you are a liberal. You know that too!
 
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ObamacareFail said:
It does not mean he should be arrested and charged with murder....however he does have blood on his hands. Without Sharpton inciting all the race baiting, it's not likely the two cops would have been killed.
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Without all the Right Wingers taking the bait, nobody would even know what he said.

If he's responsible for this, then Palin is responsible for Gabby Giffords. I don't believe that's true in either case, but at least I'm consistent and not just flailing around for a way to blame somebody because I don't like their politics.
 
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US Conservative said:
Imagine if the tables were turned and a "white civil rights leader" with a long history of inciting violence led protests where people chanted they wanted to see dead black people, and then a week later 2 blacks were assassinated by a guy who said he did it based on their skin color.

Would the left be up in arms? Of course they would but here its crickets.
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Why would a civil rights leader say something about killing black people? I would say that person isn't a civil rights leader, unless you think whites have different civil rights.
 
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rocket88 said:
Without all the Right Wingers taking the bait, nobody would even know what he said.

If he's responsible for this, then Palin is responsible for Gabby Giffords. I don't believe that's true in either case, but at least I'm consistent and not just flailing around for a way to blame somebody because I don't like their politics.
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You mean like that liberal hero Paul Krugman did:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/08/assassination-attempt-in-arizona/?_r=0

The link between Palin and the shooting of Giffords existed only in the twisted minds of liberals. Actual linkage between liberal hate speech and the murder of the two police officers is clear as day.
 
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rocket88 said:
Without all the Right Wingers taking the bait, nobody would even know what he said.
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You really do not get it, do you? Sharpton is baiting inner city African Americans and inciting them to protest and riot. Why are you attempting to inject right wingers?

If he's responsible for this, then Palin is responsible for Gabby Giffords. I don't believe that's true in either case, but at least I'm consistent and not just flailing around for a way to blame somebody because I don't like their politics.
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That is a very goofy strawman argument. How can you compare Palin making a few pro-2nd amendment speeches with Sharpton rushing to the airport to inject himself into every "cop kills black man" incident that hits the news?
 
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rocket88 said:
Why would a civil rights leader say something about killing black people? I would say that person isn't a civil rights leader, unless you think whites have different civil rights.
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You have precisely missed the point (if you even saw one). If this was reversed you'd be all over it, and my example was a hypothetical-because there aren't civil rights leaders or protesters calling for blacks to be killed.
 
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US Conservative said:
Same protestors, just more open about it is all.
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Prove that they're the same people. Or do they all look alike to you?
 
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ObamacareFail said:
You really do not get it, do you? Sharpton is baiting inner city African Americans and inciting them to protest and riot. Why are you attempting to inject right wingers?



That is a very goofy strawman argument. How can you compare Palin making a few pro-2nd amendment speeches with Sharpton rushing to the airport to inject himself into every "cop kills black man" incident that hits the news?
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Please link to where Sharpton has called for violence.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contr to the deaths of 2 Police officers? [W:68, W:433

b_dubz said:
Actually the dead cops thing was shouted hours after the protest was over, by a group fairly far away from the protestors, by a few dozen people, and all the Ferguson protest groups condemned it immediately.

But, ya no, what are minor details like that to the mass media?
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Actually the activist groups once all assembled for the march later broke away from the crowd given different directions where they could cause the most havoc. Some groups were directed toward the Brooklyn Bridge. Others were sent to main arteries of the city to cause congestion and mayhem, etc. This can be verified by following the hash tags of the protest groups on Twitter and other social media.
 
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polgara said:
Greetings, Vesper. :2wave:

As in the Kent State shootings many years ago, the agitators came in, stirred up trouble and violence, and left before the police arrived. Students died, not the agitators! :thumbdown:

Merry Christmas to you and yours, Vesper. *hug*
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Kind of like those 'nawthin' agitatas' that got the 'coloreds' all stirred up during the Civil Rights era, right? :lamo I'll say one thing for you guys on the Far Right. You are consistent.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Bodhisattva said:
Of course Sharpton has helped contribute to their deaths. He is a race baiting piece of crap that, unfortunately, many people take very seriously. He rouses emotion, calls for disunity and sets the spark.
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No.

In these cases he is stating fact, and people have every right to be mad that those cops where acquitted.

I have problems with him, but they don't stem from this.

If anybody is "race baiting" its the right with their constant denial, excuses, and accusations.
 
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b_dubz said:
who's jobs are the taking? Are you going to go pick Strawberry's for a buck or two a hr? Are you going to pay ten or twenty bucks for a pint of Strawberry's? Alright then...

Without illegals food prices would be way higher than they already are...
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So you think the 20 million illegals who have snuck into the United States only pick strawberries and the like? Awesome admission. It's clear you have much to learn.

I suggest you invest 30 or 40 seconds of your life to learn more about the jobs illegal aliens have taken from legal minority citizens.

I'm not ready to suggest these current headlines are being pushed to get away from the royal screw job the President has given to minorities through his unilateral illegal alien proclamations, but it doesn't take much to see how beneficial it is to keep that screwing out of the papers.
 
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ocean515 said:
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So you think the 20 million illegals who have snuck into the United States only pick strawberries and the like? Awesome admission. It's clear you have much to learn.

I suggest you invest 30 or 40 seconds of your life to learn more about the jobs illegal aliens have taken from legal minority citizens.

I'm not ready to suggest these current headlines are being pushed to get away from the royal screw job the President has given to minorities through his unilateral illegal alien proclamations, but it doesn't take much to see how beneficial it is to keep that screwing out of the papers.
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What does all of this have to do with Al Sharpton and 2 dead NYC cops? ::roll:

I seriously don't see the connection.
 
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shrubnose said:
What does all of this have to do with Al Sharpton and 2 dead NYC cops? ::roll:

I seriously don't see the connection.
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Perhaps you could click back to find the context from which the statement originated. Saves time doing that.
 
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Kobie said:
Please link to where Sharpton has called for violence.
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He does not have to specifically call for violence. He whipped the inner city masses into a frenzy over disatisfaction with grand jury results. It became a call for mob justice. Sharpton has blood on his hands.
 
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Wiggen said:
Kind of like those 'nawthin' agitatas' that got the 'coloreds' all stirred up during the Civil Rights era, right? :lamo I'll say one thing for you guys on the Far Right. You are consistent.
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That is repugnant taunting and race baiting on your part. The civil rights era protesters had a valid point. The morons protesting grand jury verdicts do not.
 
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