View Poll Results: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Voters
621. You may not vote on this poll
  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    34 5.48%
  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    8 1.29%
  • Im not American, yes.

    8 1.29%
  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    308 49.60%
  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    173 27.86%
  • Im not American, no.

    90 14.49%
Page 7 of 72 FirstFirst ... 567891757 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 720

Thread: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contr to the deaths of 2 Police officers? [W:68, W:433]

  1. #61
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    47,967

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Can you remind me when Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck led protests where chants of "What do we want? Dead Congressmen!" "When do we want them?" "Now!"? were being made?
    They never did. Then again, i've seen no evidence Sharpton did in terms of the cop version of said statement...so I'm not sure really what the point of either example is relevant to the situation. Sadly, that reality hasn't really stopped either side

  2. #62
    Sage


    eohrnberger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    24,849
    Blog Entries
    11

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Only 61 times! Man how could people ever get the idea Obama's a huge fan when Sharpton's only visited 61 times? I just dont know.
    Indeed. Normally, people with such, err, 'colored' past aren't welcomed at the White House.

    Sharpton Owes $4M in taxes, Still hasn't paid his legal obligations for damages from the Tawana Brawley case.

    The guy is a real piece of work. You know he started out as a drug hustler for a street gang until he turned on them as an informant, right?

    Such a (*cough*) trustworthy (*cough*) fellow, and welcomed at Obama's White House, frequently. Just goes to show you, this is far from any sort of 'post racial' president, as he once claimed of himself.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

  3. #63
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    47,967

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Can you please explain how support for the 2A is calling for criminal violence? Is support for the auto industry calling for deaths and injuries caused by vehicles?
    Oh give me a break with this kind of transparent non-argument. If you have to be so intellectually dishonest regarding a statement just to defend your position then you need to reaccess your argument, stance, and ability to actually defend your view. I can't believe for a second you honestly believe that if someone is talking about "second amendment solutions" (even though that exact phrase is incorrect) to tyranny that they're meaning "support for the 2nd amendment".

    The quote in question...that reinoe stupidly 1) misquotes and 2) misattributes...is about "second amendment remedies". Said quote was:

    Angle: I feel that the Second Amendment is the right to keep and bear arms for our citizenry. This not for someone who's in the military. This not for law enforcement. This is for us. And in fact when you read that Constitution and the founding fathers, they intended this to stop tyranny. This is for us when our government becomes tyrannical...

    Manders: If we needed it at any time in history, it might be right now.

    Angle: Well it's to defend ourselves. And you know, I'm hoping that we're not getting to Second Amendment remedies. I hope the vote will be the cure for the Harry Reid problems.

    (SOURCE)
    Angle was not talking for "support for the 2nd amendment". She was not saying that "When the government becomes tyranical [the 2nd amendment] is to defend ourselves. And I hope we're not getting to the point of supporting the 2nd amendment"

    Angle's comments was suggesting that she was hoping we weren't getting to the point as a country where people felt they needed to "defend" themselves" from "tyrany" b using "remedies" provided by the second amendment (arms).

    When talking about "second amendment rememdies" she most certaintly wasn't talking about "support for the 2nd amendment".

    It's far easier to blow up reinoe's ridiculous prejudice based bellowing by pointing out she doesn't even get the quote right, she misattributes who actually said it, and the quote itself was not "advocating" for but specifically suggested a hope that people DON'T feel such a thing is needed.

  4. #64
    Canadian Conservative
    CanadaJohn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 03:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    27,186

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "Race hustler" is the new conservative term for "black guy we don't like."

    The original post is ridiculously dishonest. There was one picture, followed by two videos. The first of the two videos is protesters saying "dead cops." Not cool, not acceptable. The second video is of Sharpton speaking at a rally, tastefully narrated by Fox News. They were not the same rally. Yet the obvious intent was to portray them as the same rally.

    US Conservative, lying again.

    And I'm speaking as someone who doesn't even LIKE Al Sharpton. It's funny that conservatives fancy themselves the ones who are all about personal responsibility ... until some "lib" says something you don't like, and then his Professor X mind control powers kick in and it's all his fault. Pathetic.

    It takes a lot of nerve to accuse Al Sharpton of "Race hustling" when you're doing it in SPADES. Pun ****ing intended.
    Considering it likely went over your head, conservatives believe that being responsible for your own actions also includes responsibility for your own words. Liberals, even the fake Libertarian kind, believe they can spew whatever hate they want and then step back and wash their hands of the havoc they may cause.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

  5. #65
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    47,967

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Since so many conservatives are deseperately attempting to suggest that blaming Al Sharpton is legitimate here...

    It shouldn't be hard for one of them to provide me a quote from Al Sharpton encouraging, or calling for, any criminal act in regards to these recent killings.

    So there you go. Provide me with a link of Sharpton advocating for an illegal action to be done. If tha can be provided I'll get right on board with the accusation that Sharpton is guilty of inciting this crime.

    Note...showing a youtube video of one random protest that is advocating for a crime, and then showing a youtube video of an entirely seperate protest that Sharpton is a part of that isn't advocating for a crime, and then trying to equate them as being the exact same thing and thus Sharpton is guilty is NOT a legitiamte argument.

  6. #66
    Sage
    Perotista's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,928
    Blog Entries
    24

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Al Sharpton's race hustling and poverty pimping are long known and he's a frequent guest to the Obama whitehouse, but in recent days Sharpton led a rally in NYC where "What Do We Want? Dead Cops! was shouted. As we know, two of NYPD's finest were executed by a man who may be an islamist. The two cops weren't even white-just cops.





    Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?
    I think the perception among quite a lot of whites that Sharpton and the protests had a lot to do with the death of the 2 NYPD officers. But perceptions may not be real and may have little or no facts, truths to back them up. But how people perceive things leads them to their conclusions of what is happening and going on.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

  7. #67
    Gradualist

    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Last Seen
    09-25-17 @ 12:48 PM
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    34,949
    Blog Entries
    6

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    No. Not at all. Calling for peaceful protest is not calling for violence and calling for murder. If you think they somehow did contribute to this murder, then you are just a flat out idiot and a hack.


  8. #68
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    47,967

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Moderator's Warning:
    Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contr to the deaths of 2 Police officers? [W:68, W:433]Folks, I've been seeing a rise of this in a few threads so dealing with this in a broad warning.

    Mods are not stupid.

    If you enter a thread asking a clear yes or no question, and you proceed to wade in calling everyone who votes [yes/no] as being something like a "dumbass", it's crystal clear that you're flaming posters or at the very least laying out some clear bait.

    Stop it. Action can, and potentionally will, be taken against these type of things. While insults to broad political groups and generalized comments are TYPICALLY allowed, that isn't a wholesale invitation to flame nor is it an indication that such baits/flames will be ignored when it's transparent that said broad insult is obviously or clearly being done to get around directly insulting posters on this board.

  9. #69
    Advisor
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Last Seen
    11-25-15 @ 05:56 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    531

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Just because Al Sharpton is a convicted felon, a racist pig and a tax dodger and he did incite riots in past years that does not make him responsible for the two LEO's death.

  10. #70
    A sinister place...
    OrphanSlug's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Atlanta
    Last Seen
    08-08-17 @ 02:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    10,860

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    I do not think Al Sharpton helped the matter but it would be foolish to assign him blame. It sets us up for a discussion that takes us even further away from what we need to be talking about when it comes to race relations, law enforcement, system of justice, economics, representation, and a dozen other subjects that all involve a social cohesion that few (including Al Sharpton) seem interested in.
    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

Page 7 of 72 FirstFirst ... 567891757 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •