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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    What got attention was what was happening. Not AL.
    But why Al if he isn't influential?

    You want to address anything about the various groups encouraging the demonstrations?

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    But why Al if he isn't influential?

    You want to address anything about the various groups encouraging the demonstrations?
    Because there was protesting and such, but Al. And people protested due to what happened and not Al.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post


    You really should run along, you have established zero credibility and your assumptions are absurd.

    Let's try a bleeding heart, Progressive Machine website which instantly debunks your 2.5 million joke.

    Illegal Immigrants Give Billions to Medicare, Social Security With No Hope of Benefit | Reporting on Health

    Experts say illegal immigrants make up a majority—possibly up to 75 percent—of SSA’s “earnings suspense file,” which is a record it keeps on W-2s where the names and Social Security numbers don’t match up in their system.

    In 2010, the last year for which figures are available, employers reported wages of $70.3 billion from 7.3 million workers whose records were placed in the earnings suspense file, according to data provided by the SSA to The Medicare NewsGroup.


    Of course, these are only the ones who have been caught.

    So, farm jobs, or toilet cleaners? You're suggesting there are millions of farm workers and toilet cleaners?

    Thanks for the entertainment. It's remarkable there are those who are so willing to admit to such talent.

    Happy New Year!
    Ha I have zero credibility right... Says the guy that quoted cis... And apparently can't read...

    How do illegals not support the economy? What would food prices be without them? I love how you RUN from these questions...

    You really need to read better.... You debunked nothing, and actually added to my point...

    I said (and the the article I posted) said there are 2.5 million FARM WORKERS. that does not include construction workers, or maids, or janitors, or any other job category illegals take. JUST FARM WORKERS.

    Also the people on that list obviously have not stolen anybody's identity to the person with the identity's detriment. because in order to get a credit card, or take out a loan, you MUST HAVE A ID AND SS THAT MATCH!! these are obviously people who just put a random name and ss number on a app in the hopes the jobs would not check them. This would be the employers problem.

    Also it is likely a decent portion of these people actually are not using anyone else's ss number, as you conveniently ignored...

    The mother of two moved to her current job just as her permit was set to expire 5 years ago. Today, she works as a kitchen manager, using her now-invalid Social Security number and different name to deter immigration officials.
    from the article you posted...

    So you see she us using a invalid ss number, not someone else's.

    the Social Security Administration, told me that undocumented workers contribute about $15 billion a year to Social Security through payroll taxes. They only take out $1 billion (very few undocumented workers are eligible to receive benefits). Over the years, undocumented workers have contributed up to $300 billion, or nearly 10 percent, of the $2.7 trillion Social Security Trust Fund.
    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/02/17...anted=all&_r=0[/quote]

    So without illegals ss would have less money, not more. They put in far more than they are able to take. That's just a fact, as is them supporting the economy.

    Nearly all economists, of all political persuasions, agree that immigrants — those here legally or not — benefit the overall economy. “That is not controversial,” Heidi Shierholz, an economist at the Economic Policy Institute, told me. Shierholz also said that “there is a consensus that, on average, the incomes of families in this country are increased by a small, but clearly positive amount, because of immigration.”
    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/02/17...anted=all&_r=0

    And again the idea that they support the economy is fact. That's why you run from that point...

    Also I question the authenticity of that blog. Like most blogs there is no citation of sources. For example they say "experts say the SSA is this" but do not say which experts...

    Good job proving yourself biased and incredibly unfactual... That's all you have done this whole time...

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Ha I have zero credibility right... Says the guy that quoted cis... And apparently can't read...

    How do illegals not support the economy? What would food prices be without them? I love how you RUN from these questions...

    You really need to read better.... You debunked nothing, and actually added to my point...

    I said (and the the article I posted) said there are 2.5 million FARM WORKERS. that does not include construction workers, or maids, or janitors, or any other job category illegals take. JUST FARM WORKERS.

    Also the people on that list obviously have not stolen anybody's identity to the person with the identity's detriment. because in order to get a credit card, or take out a loan, you MUST HAVE A ID AND SS THAT MATCH!! these are obviously people who just put a random name and ss number on a app in the hopes the jobs would not check them. This would be the employers problem.

    Also it is likely a decent portion of these people actually are not using anyone else's ss number, as you conveniently ignored...

    from the article you posted...

    So you see she us using a invalid ss number, not someone else's.


    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/02/17...anted=all&_r=0
    So without illegals ss would have less money, not more. They put in far more than they are able to take. That's just a fact, as is them supporting the economy.



    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/02/17...anted=all&_r=0

    And again the idea that they support the economy is fact. That's why you run from that point...

    Also I question the authenticity of that blog. Like most blogs there is no citation of sources. For example they say "experts say the SSA is this" but do not say which experts...

    Good job proving yourself biased and incredibly unfactual... That's all you have done this whole time...[/QUOTE]

    And you use the failing leftist rag NY Times as a source?

    When you get a clue, perhaps you could be taken seriously. I have strong doubts that will occur in the near future. Indoctrination will likely take a long time to overcome, if it's ever possible.

    Happy New Year!

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    As far as the right-wing hacks are concerned, there are no peaceful protesters.
    I have peacefully and generally silently protested many times. Whether alone or with others, I haven't associated with/been anywhere near those out there for excitement or drama or opportunity.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    The facts are recorded, as I showed in the article, and Sharpton is certainly no scape goat. He didn't reach his current status by accepting unwarranted blame.
    Here's a WaPo article on Sharpton's role as peacemaker. One group of young activists states:

    “Al Sharpton doesn’t speak for us,” said Erika Maye, a spokeswoman for Freedom Side, an Atlanta-based group that has been involved in the protests. “His focus on respectability, pulling up your pants and getting an education — that doesn’t keep our brothers and sisters safe. You can do everything you’re supposed to do, but if a police officer sees you, they will see you as a suspect, so you can still be subject to police violence.” Sharpton faces criticism after NYC officers

    I thought Sharpton had rehabilitated himself, but he's the same old self-promoting panderer and pot-stirrer he always has been.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Here's a WaPo article on Sharpton's role as peacemaker. One group of young activists states:

    “Al Sharpton doesn’t speak for us,” said Erika Maye, a spokeswoman for Freedom Side, an Atlanta-based group that has been involved in the protests. “His focus on respectability, pulling up your pants and getting an education — that doesn’t keep our brothers and sisters safe. You can do everything you’re supposed to do, but if a police officer sees you, they will see you as a suspect, so you can still be subject to police violence.” Sharpton faces criticism after NYC officers

    I thought Sharpton had rehabilitated himself, but he's the same old self-promoting panderer and pot-stirrer he always has been.
    The really sad thing about this is that Sharpton, Jackson, and even Holder exist as the only visible alternatives to the New Black Panther Party as leaders in the discussion of race relations in this country. There are more reasonable and less self-serving voices out there - they're just refused the media platform the above mentioned people enjoy.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Because there was protesting and such, but Al. And people protested due to what happened and not Al.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    As far as the right-wing hacks are concerned, there are no peaceful protesters.
    And as far as left-wing hacks are concerned, there are no violent protesters. It could be that the truth is somewhere in between, but you didn't hear it from me.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Firstly, Gabrielle Giffords was shot by a leftist with psych issues, secondly, what right wing rhetoric was calling for the deaths of congressional reps?
    I got to call you out US Conservative. Where does Al Sharpton go around directly calling for the deaths of police officers over this year of 2014? And you're incorrect about Jared Loughner being a leftist. As a matter of fact it appears that he leaned more to the right of political thinking. LINK

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    Records show that Loughner was registered as an Independent and voted in 2006 and 2008, but not in 2010.[39][40] A YouTube channel under an account called "Classitup10" was linked to Loughner. (There have been numerous copies of 'impostor accounts' such as 'JaredLoughner' and 'Classitup1O'.)[41][42]

    Loughner's high school friend Zach Osler said, "He did not watch TV; he disliked the news; he didn't listen to political radio; he didn't take sides; he wasn't on the Left; he wasn't on the Right."[17] A former classmate, Caitie Parker, who attended high school and college with Loughner, described his political views prior to 2007, prior to his personality transformation, as "left wing, quite liberal,"[43] "radical."[44]

    In the aftermath of the shooting, the Anti-Defamation League reviewed messages by Loughner, and concluded that there was a "disjointed theme that runs through Loughner's writings", which was a "distrust for and dislike of the government." It "manifested itself in various ways" – for instance, in the belief that the government used the control of language and grammar to brainwash people, the notion that the government was creating "infinite currency" without the backing of gold and silver, or the assertion that NASA was faking spaceflights.[45]

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