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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    It says what it says. Sorry, I'm too lazy to go back and rehash you're errors in judgment again.

    Lmao, yeah, that's what I thought. You got it wrong from the first post in which addressed me and now you won't even try and prove me wrong.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I'm not wrong. I guess the group organizing the marches, and maintaining content had better get some more donations flowing, because they just might get a world of legal hurt raining down on them as they encourage more to join their group and inflict economic harm on innocent people just trying to keep their children fed and clothed. Amazing you don't hold the same values toward innocent children.

    Regardless, it's your choice to remain uninformed. I guess it's difficult to admit your had it wrong when it's so critical to appearances to think you have it right.

    Again, Merry Christmas! May the spirit of the season bring all that you deserve in life.
    It may have already been mentioned, but have you noticed there are an awful lot of white faces in these demonstrations now.
    More than can be accounted for by a natural concern for civil rights.
    Makes you wonder that maybe the motivations of the influences aren't so pure.
    That, coupled with reports of the organizations(s) actually leading and paying for these demonstrations, brings things into clearer focus.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    It may have already been mentioned, but have you noticed there are an awful lot of white faces in these demonstrations now.
    More than can be accounted for by a natural concern for civil rights.
    Makes you wonder that maybe the motivations of the influences aren't so pure.
    That, coupled with reports of the organizations(s) actually leading and paying for these demonstrations, brings things into clearer focus.
    Not wanting to dip too far into CT waters, I think it is becoming quite obvious there is more than meets the eye. Rather handy to have racial issues taking headlines, as opposed to increased unemployment in minority neighborhoods caused by illegal aliens who are winning the lottery under the Obama Administration.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Correct. And the Tea Party Patriots. And FreedomWorks. And Americans for Prosperity (not sure why you decided to name just ONE national group for the tea party but rattled off half a dozen for Black Lives Matter.

    And you like the Black Lives Matters movement groups, both local and nationally, you had national and local tea party groups ALSO networking.

    All you're doing at this point is repeating what I've already said.

    Yes, there are many groups involved in the Black Lives Matter movement (similar to the tea party). Every leader of every group involved in the black lives matter movement is not responsible for the events hosted by, the things said by, or the actions taken by every other group that's part of the movement...they're responsible for things the group they lead does.

    If The Millions March NYC coalition (A local level black lives matter group) hosts an event under the auspices of the Black Lives Matter movement, that does not mean that Al Sharpton or the NAN are ALSO hosting THAT EVENT simply because they themselves are hosting an entirely different event completely seperate from the MMNYC that also happens to be under teh auspices of the Black Lives Matter movement.

    Just like if the South Colorado Patriots Club (A local level Tea Party group) hosts a rally under the auspices of the Tea Party, that does not mean that Howard Kaloogian or the Tea Party express are ALSO hosting THAT EVENT simply because they themselves are hosting a different event in a different location completely seperate from the SCPC's event that happens to also be under the auspices of the Tea Party movement.
    Maybe you know all the National Tea Party organizations. I don't. So what? I gave an example.
    Yes you keep claiming because what one organization does Al Sharpton can't be held responsible. Got it. But have you ever gave it much thought into the name of his organization? National Action Network.

    I think when Al Sharpton gave a press conference that he was returning to Missouri to await the announcement of the Grand Jury verdict was telling and at the same time he made it known that he had organized and deployed demonstrators to 25 cities at Federal buildings. Kevin Jackson nailed the reason why.
    http://news.yahoo.com/video/al-sharp...144027099.html

    Of course the dear Rev. called for peaceful demonstrations but he knew tensions were already high. What an ass.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Yes you keep claiming because what one organization does Al Sharpton can't be held responsible.
    Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying, and would seem to be common sense.

    You can't blame a person, or more specifically claim that a person was running/leading/organizing/owning, for an event the person had nothing to do with that was organized/ran by a group he has nothing to do with.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying, and would seem to be common sense.

    You can't blame a person, or more specifically claim that a person was running/leading/organizing/owning, for an event the person had nothing to do with that was organized/ran by a group he has nothing to do with.
    And you want me to drink the kool-aid that somehow poor Al, after ratcheting up the tensions in Ferguson making claims that Michael Brown was innocent and a victim of police brutality, and racial profiling, BEFORE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY was released that proved contrary...... seeing all the anarchists groups pour into the town to feed off the frenzy somehow thought any demonstration he called for would be a peaceful one? Yah right!

    Today it is being reported and on video of protestors taking to the streets in NYC by the thousands today shutting down 5th Avenue chanting NYPD equal to KKK. Others show protestors chanting "How do you spell murderers... NYPD" and others chanting a slogan of Joanne Chesimar, aka Assata Shakur, a convicted cop killer living in Cuba to avoid prison since 1984. While back in Missouri two miles from Ferguson today a white officer shot and killed an armed black man who was pointing a loaded gun at him that resulted in a riot with officers being hurt from bricks to explosives thrown at them. Wonder how soon Sharpton can break himself away from NYC to head back to Misssouri? Jesus

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    And you want me to drink the kool-aid that somehow poor Al, after ratcheting up the tensions in Ferguson making claims that Michael Brown was innocent and a victim of police brutality, and racial profiling, BEFORE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY was released that proved contrary...... seeing all the anarchists groups pour into the town to feed off the frenzy somehow thought any demonstration he called for would be a peaceful one? Yah right!
    Could you provide me where I said anything about what he thought would happen at demonstrations he "called for"?

    Nice attempt at distorting what I've been saying and trying to move the goal posts, but that doesn't work when there's a clear record of what I've been saying.

    What "kool-aid" I want people to drink is that it's an outright falsehood to claim that Al Sharpton:

    1. Said that he wants "dead cops"
    2. Led the chant shouting for "dead cops" in the OPs video
    3. Organized/hosted the event where the crowd chanted for "dead cops" in the OP's video

    You can keep trying to distort what I'm saying all you want...but your misrepresentation of my comments aren't ACTUALLY my comments.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Could you provide me where I said anything about what he thought would happen at demonstrations he "called for"?

    Nice attempt at distorting what I've been saying and trying to move the goal posts, but that doesn't work when there's a clear record of what I've been saying.

    What "kool-aid" I want people to drink is that it's an outright falsehood to claim that Al Sharpton:

    1. Said that he wants "dead cops"
    2. Led the chant shouting for "dead cops" in the OPs video
    3. Organized/hosted the event where the crowd chanted for "dead cops" in the OP's video

    You can keep trying to distort what I'm saying all you want...but your misrepresentation of my comments aren't ACTUALLY my comments.
    And the title of this thread isn't about accusing Al Sharpton calling for dead cops nor lead the chant shouting for dead cops.
    It's about his rhetoric that fueled tensions and hatred that some groups are now chanting a lot more than dead cops. The same anarchist activist groups who fly under the banner of Black lives Matter events. Sharpton knows they are going to show up. They always do.
    Last edited by vesper; 12-24-14 at 02:06 PM.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Probably so, but that doesn't make him responsible for everything bad that happens.

    It does not mean he should be arrested and charged with murder....however he does have blood on his hands. Without Sharpton inciting all the race baiting, it's not likely the two cops would have been killed.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    And the title of this thread isn't about accusing Al Sharpton calling for dead cops nor lead the chant shouting for dead cops.
    But the argument for it in the first post was about that, as was the videos in the original post, as have been multiple people's continued posts on the topic....thus why I've responded to those claims.

    I figured you would've understood this since you confusedly keep trying to suggest I'm wrong, as it would be rather curious and laughable if you were trying to say I'm wrong without even knowing what it is my posts were talking about.

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