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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Agist? I haven't treated her any different than I treat you when it's clear you have no clue what you're discussing. Now move along, before I decide to destroy any of your ridiculous arguments in this thread.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Which in your post you never addressed why CBS is calling "Black Lives Matter" a group
    You're right, I addressed why you were wrong in calling them an organization. Which I've already demonstrated that they are not. Now, as to why CBS is calling them "a group", how should I know why they're as uninformed as you are on this issue? It wouldn't be the first time a news organization gets it wrong when it comes to describing something they're not actually involved in. My guess is that it's for the same reason they call Anonymous "a group". It takes the work out of having to actually find a word that defines the hundreds upon hundreds of splinter cells acting under a single cause.

    Again, your posts which have been corrected more than once, implied that this was an organization that was going to get sued. As I've already shown you: That is simply not possible because there is nothing they will be able to sue. There is no incorporated organization under such a name. There are community organizers organizing events using that hashtag. That's the best they have. They may be able to personally sue these event organizers, but when they try to draw up a legal document to sue "Black Lives Matter", they'll come to the realization that this isn't ACORN, this isn't MoveOn. This is more like OWS or The Tea Party. It's not an actual legal entity that can be sued.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You are gonna be mugged by reality. I hope insight is substantive. But in any case, it will be there.
    Ooh, I'm scared.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    He thinks it does not exist if its not on his liberal website! Reality sneers Oh Rly?!?!?
    My liberal website? Guidestar is a liberal website? Lol. Somebody's angry that they get destroyed by me in every debate. If you've got nothing to contribute, you may as well move along US Con.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're right, I addressed why you were wrong in calling them an organization. Which I've already demonstrated that they are not. Now, as to why CBS is calling them "a group", how should I know why they're as uninformed as you are on this issue? It wouldn't be the first time a news organization gets it wrong when it comes to describing something they're not actually involved in. My guess is that it's for the same reason they call Anonymous "a group". It takes the work out of having to actually find a word that defines the hundreds upon hundreds of splinter cells acting under a single cause.

    Again, your posts which have been corrected more than once, implied that this was an organization that was going to get sued. As I've already shown you: That is simply not possible because there is nothing they will be able to sue. There is no incorporated organization under such a name. There are community organizers organizing events using that hashtag.
    The organizers of Black Lives Matter rallies/marches are left activist groups working in sync to organize the rallies. The rally/march in DC was called a Black Lives Matter Rally promoted by Al Sharpton's group, NAN. The rally/march in NYC was organized by the same activist groups as a Black Lives Matter event. The protest at the Mall of America over the weekend was promoted as a Black Live Matters event. And to make it more confusing there is a group that identifies itself as Black Lives Matter.

    Bottom line, Al Sharpton's NAN is working with the left activist groups organizing these rallies/marches. But when you have a group such as the Trayvon Martin Organizing Committee show up at NYC and start chanting "what do we want? Dead Cops" it becomes a problem for Al Sharpton.

    The city of Milwaukee knows who the organizers of the Black Lives Matter event as the Mall personally told the group that it would not be tolerated prior to the event happening because the Mall was private property. They are suing the organizers.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ooh, I'm scared.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The organizers of Black Lives Matter rallies/marches are left activist groups working in sync to organize the rallies.
    Yes, nobody has argued otherwise. What has been in question is your erroneous understanding of just what Black Lives Matter is. Did you forget that already? That you took issue with the fact that I laughed at a lawsuit towards an entity that does not exist on paper?

    The rally/march in DC was called a Black Lives Matter Rally promoted by Al Sharpton's group, NAN.
    Damn it! You were starting off so well: Thousands join Al Sharpton in

    Thousands join Al Sharpton in ‘Justice for All’ march in D.C.
    The march Sharpton organized was called the JUSTICE FOR ALL. This has been explained to you by 3 other posters. How you can still get it so wrong is really insane.

    The rally/march in NYC was organized by the same activist groups as a Black Lives Matter event.
    Not it was not. Again, Zyphlin already addressed this nonsense. But I'll do it too just so you realize just how wrong you have it:

    The Daily Fix: Families of Men Killed by Police to Join National March in Washington, D.C. | TakePart

    Lead organizer Synead Nichols said in a statement, “We are a new generation of young multi*racial activists willing to take up the torch, and we’re not going to stand for this anymore.”
    The person who organized the event in NYC is called Synead Nichols.

    The protest at the Mall of America over the weekend was promoted as a Black Live Matters event.
    Yes, this was an event promoted under the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter. You're starting to get it.

    And to make it more confusing there is a group that identifies itself as Black Lives Matter.
    There is nothing confusing about this. You really make it obvious time and time again that you don't really know what it is you're discussing.

    Bottom line, Al Sharpton's NAN is working with the left activist groups organizing these rallies/marches.
    Lmao, this has already been proven false above. Sharpton organized one rally, Sinead Nichols organized another. They were two independent rallies organized under the same hashtag in different cities and states. Again, do you realize why I laughed at the idea that Black Lives Matter was going to be sued? It's as if you really don't get that there is nothing that can be sued under the name of "Black Lives Matter". Black Lives Matter is not an organization. It's a whole bunch of different community organizers protesting for the same reason and using the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter to bring attention to their own independent events. They're not working together, hell, the only thing that ties these people together is the cause they use to march and the social media they use.

    But when you have a group such as the Trayvon Martin Organizing Committee show up at NYC and start chanting "what do we want? Dead Cops" it becomes a problem for Al Sharpton.
    Your red herring is noted. However, there it has absolutely nothing to do with what we've been discussing for 2 pages now.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper
    The city of Milwaukee knows who the organizers of the Black Lives Matter event as the Mall personally told the group that it would not be tolerated prior to the event happening because the Mall was private property. They are suing the organizers.


    Quote Originally Posted by vesper
    The good news today is Black Lives Matter is being sued for damages by the Mall of America in Milwaukee after they were told by the mall owner not to stage a protest on private property.
    Quote Originally Posted by vesper
    Maybe all the supporting groups of Black Lives Matter can help them cough up the money for damages.
    Gee, it only took you about 3 pages to recognize your mistake. Doubt you'll admit how ridiculous you sounded when you kept saying they were going to sue Black Lives Matter. They're going to sue individuals. Guess why? Because Black Lives Matter is not a legal entity that can be sued.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes, nobody has argued otherwise. What has been in question is your erroneous understanding of just what Black Lives Matter is. Did you forget that already? That you took issue with the fact that I laughed at a lawsuit towards an entity that does not exist on paper?



    Damn it! You were starting off so well: Thousands join Al Sharpton in



    The march Sharpton organized was called the JUSTICE FOR ALL. This has been explained to you by 3 other posters. How you can still get it so wrong is really insane.



    Not it was not. Again, Zyphlin already addressed this nonsense. But I'll do it too just so you realize just how wrong you have it:

    The Daily Fix: Families of Men Killed by Police to Join National March in Washington, D.C. | TakePart



    The person who organized the event in NYC is called Synead Nichols.



    Yes, this an event promoted under the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter. You're starting to gett it.



    There is nothing confusing about this. You really make it obvious time and time again that you don't really know what it is you're discussing.



    Lmao, this has already been proven false above. Sharpton organized one rally, Sinead Nichols organized another. They were two independent rallies organized under the same hashtag in different cities and states. Again, do you realize why I laughed at the idea that Black Lives Matter was going to be sued? It's as if you really don't get that there is nothing that can be sued under the name of "Black Lives Matter". Black Lives Matter is not an organization. It's a whole bunch of different community organizers protesting for the same reason and using the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter to bring attention to their own independent events. They're not working together, hell, the only thing that ties these people together is the cause they use to march and the social media they use.



    Your red herring is noted. However, there it has absolutely nothing to do with what we've been discussing for 2 pages now.
    What part don't you get? It doesn't matter what name you want to associate with the NYC march/rally, the protestors were made up of some of the same activist groups as the one in DC. They carried the same damn "professional" signs hot off the printing press. What part don't you understand that there are so many names of activist groups all with their own personal agenda that now they are being defined in the media as "Black Lives Matter" because that is the name given to the events they organize.

    Watch the first 10 seconds of this video, is the interviewer wrong just like CBS?


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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes, nobody has argued otherwise. What has been in question is your erroneous understanding of just what Black Lives Matter is. Did you forget that already? That you took issue with the fact that I laughed at a lawsuit towards an entity that does not exist on paper?



    Damn it! You were starting off so well: Thousands join Al Sharpton in



    The march Sharpton organized was called the JUSTICE FOR ALL. This has been explained to you by 3 other posters. How you can still get it so wrong is really insane.



    Not it was not. Again, Zyphlin already addressed this nonsense. But I'll do it too just so you realize just how wrong you have it:

    The Daily Fix: Families of Men Killed by Police to Join National March in Washington, D.C. | TakePart



    The person who organized the event in NYC is called Synead Nichols.



    Yes, this was an event promoted under the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter. You're starting to get it.



    There is nothing confusing about this. You really make it obvious time and time again that you don't really know what it is you're discussing.



    Lmao, this has already been proven false above. Sharpton organized one rally, Sinead Nichols organized another. They were two independent rallies organized under the same hashtag in different cities and states. Again, do you realize why I laughed at the idea that Black Lives Matter was going to be sued? It's as if you really don't get that there is nothing that can be sued under the name of "Black Lives Matter". Black Lives Matter is not an organization. It's a whole bunch of different community organizers protesting for the same reason and using the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter to bring attention to their own independent events. They're not working together, hell, the only thing that ties these people together is the cause they use to march and the social media they use.



    Your red herring is noted. However, there it has absolutely nothing to do with what we've been discussing for 2 pages now.
    Lots of words to tell Vesper she's right, and no she's no red herring-but even if she was she'd beat you.

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