View Poll Results: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Voters
621. You may not vote on this poll
  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    34 5.48%
  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    8 1.29%
  • Im not American, yes.

    8 1.29%
  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    308 49.60%
  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    173 27.86%
  • Im not American, no.

    90 14.49%
Page 26 of 72 FirstFirst ... 16242526272836 ... LastLast
Results 251 to 260 of 720

Thread: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contr to the deaths of 2 Police officers? [W:68, W:433]

  1. #251
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    47,937

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Of course not-Sharpton is too smart for that.
    Then why did you claim?

    "Sharpton led a rally in NYC where "What Do We Want? Dead Cops! was shouted"

    Are you admitting you were either:

    1. Flat out wrong
    2. Lying

    When you said that?

    I'll be happy to indulge your attempt to move the goal posts once we've put to bed your initial claims and statements. However, until you actually address the absolutely fraudulent and false claims you initially made I'm not playing along with your attempts to reframe the discussion.

  2. #252
    Sage
    SheWolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:01 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    24,446

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?



    What I thought was even funnier was indigent Tucker saying he didn't mind discussing police tactics and so forth, but THEY were making it an issue of race and that was unacceptable. It seems the entire network is making it about race, stoking racial division and fear. Tucker full of so much ****.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "Race hustler" is the new conservative term for "black guy we don't like."

    The original post is ridiculously dishonest. There was one picture, followed by two videos. The first of the two videos is protesters saying "dead cops." Not cool, not acceptable. The second video is of Sharpton speaking at a rally, tastefully narrated by Fox News. They were not the same rally. Yet the obvious intent was to portray them as the same rally.

    US Conservative, lying again.

    And I'm speaking as someone who doesn't even LIKE Al Sharpton. It's funny that conservatives fancy themselves the ones who are all about personal responsibility ... until some "lib" says something you don't like, and then his Professor X mind control powers kick in and it's all his fault. Pathetic.

    It takes a lot of nerve to accuse Al Sharpton of "Race hustling" when you're doing it in SPADES. Pun ****ing intended.

  3. #253
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    47,937

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Not really-its in plain english
    Yeah, it really is plain English. In plain english you misrepresented and/or flat out lied that Sharpton led a rally shouting for dead cops, and proceeded to use that as justification for Sharpton "contributing" to the death of two cops.

    Did Sharpton's "rhetoric" contribute to the heated atmosphere? Yes. So has the "rhetoric" of the President, of various police officers, of various TV personalities, of Fox News, of CNN, of the New York Times or the New York Post, and everyone else commenting heavily about this issue, because it's helped to cause to grow to ridiculous proportions.

    But did it contribute to the murder of two police officers? No. It's ridiculous to claim that an individuals speech that in no way directly incites, calls for, or directs people to commit a crime, "contributed" to murder.

    Just as I said it was ridiculous to suggest that Tea Partiers or Sarah Palin "contributed" to the the murder of the little girl and the shooting of Gabby Giffords when people erroneously threw out such accusations (doubly stupidly, since it finally came out he wasn't a tea partier). And just as it would be ridiculous to accuse those people who created the "Zeitgiest" movie for the shooting. And just like it's ridiculous to suggest the Tea Party or Bundy Supporters "Contributed" to the death of Las Vegas Police Officers wrapped in "Don't tread on me" flags. It's ridiculous to blame Sharpton for the murder in this case. IF you want to cast blame at him in part for the over all enflamed atmosphere surrounding these cases, that's reasonable. That's entirely different than suggesting he actively contributed to the MURDER.

  4. #254
    Sage
    SheWolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:01 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    24,446

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Considering it likely went over your head, conservatives believe that being responsible for your own actions also includes responsibility for your own words. Liberals, even the fake Libertarian kind, believe they can spew whatever hate they want and then step back and wash their hands of the havoc they may cause.
    A lot of people operate that way... right and left... could you be more of hack?

  5. #255
    Pragmatic Idealist
    upsideguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Rocky Mtn. High
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    10,053

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Firstly, Gabrielle Giffords was shot by a leftist with psych issues, secondly, what right wing rhetoric was calling for the deaths of congressional reps?
    I don't think you can assign a schizoprehenic a political position. Even if you did, there is nothing to suggest he is either left nor right. He had a thing for women in power. The guy is a wackadoo, much like the guy that shot the cops in New York.

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    About as much as radical right-wing rhetoric was responsible for Gabrielle Giffords getting shot in the head.
    I think Reinoe is right on target with the comparison.


    BTW.... can't you post a poll without all this "leaning" garbage?

  6. #256
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Between Athens and Jerusalem
    Last Seen
    05-18-16 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    33,522

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Show me where he, himself advocated for dead cops. I watched your video, and it was protesters shouting that at his rally. When and where did he ever endorse violence himself? Did he tell his crowd to go out and kill people? If you have a clip of him screaming for cops to be killed, that would dramatically change my opinion...
    His rhetoric advocated dead cops, do you disagree?

  7. #257
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:35 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    42,861

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Show me where anyone else advocated for the death of cops like in that sharpton led protest-and a week later 2 cops aren't going home to their families.
    You mean the Sharpton-led protest he wasn't present at and wasn't organized by his group? Why continue to perpetuate that lie?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  8. #258
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    47,937

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    His rhetoric advocated dead cops, do you disagree?
    When? Provide a quote of rhetoric from him that advocated for dead cops. What rhetoric promoted that. You keep claiming it and have produced ZERO EVIDENCE of such.

    Your own link has his rhetoric specifically saying he is not anti-cop, suggesting that most cops aren't bad, and suggesting they should stand against brutality (and it sure would seem that killing a cop is brutality). So please, what rhetoric are you speaking of, because it's not any rhetoric you've linked to thus far.

  9. #259
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Behind the Orange Curtain
    Last Seen
    01-30-15 @ 01:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    15,633

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats true, Obama got his start from Bill Ayers, who liked to set off bombs.
    If I remember correctly, Bill Ayres wife Bernardine Dohrn killed/murdered a cop. Must be a left wing thing to kill cops.

    Bernadette Dohrn, Bill Ayers and the bomb that killed a cop

    Bernardine Dohrn - Discover the Networks

    Bill Ayers - Discover the Networks

  10. #260
    Sage
    SheWolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:01 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    24,446

    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    It wouldn't have been an interesting trial. If he were captured after killing two cops, he would have gotten the death penalty. That's how the majority of Americans feel about crimes like this. Mentally ill or not, he would be sentenced to die in America, because we don't flinch at killing mentally ill scumbags.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    At no point did I absolve the shooter of his responsibility in the matter. Had he lived, that would have been up to a jury and a court to determine, including a determination of his mental capacity. It would have been an interesting trial and I would have loved to hear his testimony of why he drove to NYC to kill cops.

Page 26 of 72 FirstFirst ... 16242526272836 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •