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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Oh really? Nice try.

    You're seriously suggesting that in answer to the question of "Why did he drive to New York to kill cops instead of Baltimore" that "Because NYC cops are who killed Garner" isn't a legitimate possability?

    Give me a ****ing break.



    Entirely irrelevant to whether or not his motivation to go to New York to kill cops instead of Baltimore could've been based on a desire to take revenge on NYC cops as oppposed to because protesters in new york said "kill cops".

    You put forth a ridiculous hypothetical, make a stupid assertion about it, and then are trying to back track and change the goal posts when a legitimate answer to you dumb hypothetical was given.

    The question was "Would he have done this if there wasn't so much attention on the issue". The question was why did he got to New York when he could've just killed cops in Baltimore.
    Because the rhetoric out there says that white cops in NYC kill black men who are doing nothing wrong. And the rhetoric encourages people to stand up against this injustice. The rhetoric said that people need to be reminded that "black lives matter" and "I can't breathe" and "hands up, don't shoot" and even the mayor's son is a potential target. Because Al Sharpton's National Action Network claims "No justice. No peace". Because Al Sharpton has been allowed to get away with his garbage for years and people don't have the balls to call it out for what it is, and so he convinces young black men that their lives in this country suck, and the cops in the NYPD got away with a crime.

    Well, this is how he stood up.

    That's why he didn't kill cops in Baltimore.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Oh really? Nice try.

    You're seriously suggesting that in answer to the question of "Why did he drive to New York to kill cops instead of Baltimore" that "Because NYC cops are who killed Garner" isn't a legitimate possability?

    Give me a ****ing break.



    Entirely irrelevant to whether or not his motivation to go to New York to kill cops instead of Baltimore could've been based on a desire to take revenge on NYC cops as oppposed to because protesters in new york said "kill cops".

    You put forth a ridiculous hypothetical, make a stupid assertion about it, and then are trying to back track and change the goal posts when a legitimate answer to you dumb hypothetical was given.

    The question was "Would he have done this if there wasn't so much attention on the issue". The question was why did he got to New York when he could've just killed cops in Baltimore.
    Take a second to actually think about what your saying.

    Why would this guy want to avenge Garner's death? Did he know Garner? And why now, why not when it happened?

    The only logical answer is that he heard about the death from those who were spouting that the cop murdered Garner and the GJ let him walk free.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I've been vocalizing my disagreement with them, and I'm vocalizing my disagreement with you. Specifically you getting upset that people are actually dealing with the ridiculousness brought up in this thread instead of just going "Al Sharpton bad! Who cares about lies, Al Sharpton bad!" I'm sorry dealing with facts and reality make people "apologists" to you, but that says more about you than them.

    You want to cast blame for MURDER on people due to SPEECH that in no way, shape, or form advocated for klling and which there is zero proof the killer was motivated by it. I'll be sure to keep that in mind for the future for what I'm sure will be a consistent stance on your part.
    Yes, the people who are rushing to Sharpton's defense are apologists.

    I say Sharpton's rhetoric contributed to this. You disagree. Not sure why the threat of watching all of my future posts to try to trap me or something. My posts on Al Sharpton have never wavered. They also won't in the future.

    And once again, I never said Sharpton was to "blame for murder". Not sure what it is that you don't understand about that Zyphlin. Nor did I say "Al Sharpton bad!", did I?

    Please try to calm down when replying to me. You're making up posts I never made. Are you angry because I used the word "apologist" - which by the way had nothing to do with you and wasn't directed at you, but which you seem to take personally.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    And you will continue to have these kinds of incidents when you pretend that the cops can do no wrong and can trample all over everybody else's right.
    In this case, the cops did nothing wrong - neither the cop who was the subject of the GJ process and exonerated, nor the two cops who were actually out protecting citizens in a black community of NYC and were murdered for breathing while wearing a NYPD uniform.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    And you will continue to have these kinds of incidents when you pretend that the cops can do no wrong and can trample all over everybody else's right.
    So people are going to continue to ambush innocent policemen? And what are you basing this on exactly?
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So people are going to continue to ambush innocent policemen? And what are you basing this on exactly?
    Well, something similar happened with school and theater shootings. Plenty of crazy people in American society who are able to tap into the darker impulses of our culture to acquire the moral certification to commit their crimes.

    I expect that sooner or later police will be forced to capitulate though. Their effective superior is the mayor, and while in the general the mayor of any given city prefers a functional working relationship with the police to hostility and aggression, that preference vanishes pretty rapidly with the polls.

    Same is true of attorney generals.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Well, something similar happened with school and theater shootings. Plenty of crazy people in American society who are able to tap into the darker impulses of our culture to acquire the moral certification to commit their crimes.
    Copycats you mean? Or people who are just looking to cause trouble and use any excuse to wreak havoc?
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Well, something similar happened with school and theater shootings. Plenty of crazy people in American society who are able to tap into the darker impulses of our culture to acquire the moral certification to commit their crimes.
    And this is exactly why unchecked inflammatory rhetoric is so dangerous and people who trade in venomous speech should take responsibility for their part in this situation.

    To me, that's the entire relevance of this thread and the entire nature of my posts in it.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And this is exactly why unchecked inflammatory rhetoric is so dangerous and people who trade in venomous speech should take responsibility for their part in this situation.

    To me, that's the entire relevance of this thread and the entire nature of my posts in it.
    That's not ultimately possible.
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