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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Sharpton didn't want innocent cops killed. He never called for killing cops. But to suggest that he hasn't fanned the flames is ridiculous.
    Who is saying he hasn't been inflaming the situation or helping to whip up the anger that's out there?

    People disagreeing with the OP and the question asked in the poll is not the same as disagreeing that Sharpton hasn't been working people up.

    This thread's original post and poll weren't asking if he "fanned the flames" of anger over the issue...it asked if he contributed to the death of these cops. Those are ENTIRELY seperate things.

    It also suggested that he did the very thing you say he didn't do...that he wanted innocent cops to be killed. That he specifically led calls for innocent cops to be killed.

    I'm sorry you want to be pissy that people aren't just ignoring the lunacy of this topic or the fraudulent claims made throughout it and instead focusing on an entirely seperate thing that isn't what was asked in this thread...but that's what happens when you start a thread asking if he contributed to a murder by doing something he factually did not do.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Give me the quote where Sharpton advocates violence against cops.
    I didn't say he did - show me where I did. The title of the thread is "Did Al Sharpton's Rhetoric Contribute.........."

    Do try to keep up.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Seriously? Nice try though.
    Oh really? Nice try.

    You're seriously suggesting that in answer to the question of "Why did he drive to New York to kill cops instead of Baltimore" that "Because NYC cops are who killed Garner" isn't a legitimate possability?

    Give me a ****ing break.

    Had you heard about the Garner death prior to the Ferguson GJ decision and then the Garner GJ decision?
    Entirely irrelevant to whether or not his motivation to go to New York to kill cops instead of Baltimore could've been based on a desire to take revenge on NYC cops as oppposed to because protesters in new york said "kill cops".

    You put forth a ridiculous hypothetical, make a stupid assertion about it, and then are trying to back track and change the goal posts when a legitimate answer to you dumb hypothetical was given.

    The question was "Would he have done this if there wasn't so much attention on the issue". The question was why did he got to New York when he could've just killed cops in Baltimore.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Kinda seems like you did. Anyway....



    Only an utter fool would ignore how:
    Almost all of the protests in NYC have been peaceful
    Neither Sharpton, nor Di Blasio, nor Garner's family, or any major public figure has in any way suggested assaulting police officers
    Brinsley shot his ex-girlfriend in Baltimore -- is that also Sharpton's fault?
    Brinsley was not political, was not associated with any political activism or political groups, and wasn't motivated by politics
    Brinsley was probably going to murder someone, some day, and his choice of victims doesn't have any real political significance



    Go ahead, explain why he shot his girlfriend first. Explain why he didn't go to Staten Island, which is where Garner was killed. Why he didn't try to track down Officer Pantaleo, who put Garner in a choke hold. How he was inspired by Sharpton, who wasn't advocating violence. How he was inspired by Garner's family, who wasn't advocating violence either. How tens of thousands of peaceful protestors, who are protesting against the illegitimate use of violence, pushed someone to shoot two cops.

    I mean, really, how is this supposed to work? Did he watch a video of a bunch of drunken bros in Santa outfits yelling at police brutality protestors, and become overwhelmed with rage? Maybe he listened to some Judas Priest before committing suicide? Maybe he played too many video games? No wait, I've got it. He watched The Matrix one time too many. Keanu Reeves now has blood on his hands!

    Last week, a man named Bradley Stone shot 6 people in Philadelphia. Which Social Justice Warriors are to blame for this? Who has blood on their hands for Stone's actions?

    Or maybe... just maybe... Brinley was mentally disturbed, it was just a matter of time before he shot someone, and his choice of victims had no actual political purpose, and it's absurd to treat it that way. Just a thought.
    You can toss all the non-relevant chum into the waters you want - doesn't change the facts. But keep excusing the anti-cop hate speech and the race baiting pimps and you'll continue to have these kinds of incidents.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    I don't have access to those books. Do you have any link online that has evidence to Obama meeting with Military advisers less than 61 times over 5 years?
    It's being reported that it's now 84 times that Sharpton has visited the Obama White House and it's being reported that Sharpton is advising Obama.

    It's also being reported that Rachele Maddow is also showing up at the White House. Not being reported if Maddow is advising Obama or if Obama is advising Maddow.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Who is saying he hasn't been inflaming the situation or helping to whip up the anger that's out there?

    People disagreeing with the OP and the question asked in the poll is not the same as disagreeing that Sharpton hasn't been working people up.

    This thread's original post and poll weren't asking if he "fanned the flames" of anger over the issue...it asked if he contributed to the death of these cops. Those are ENTIRELY seperate things.

    It also suggested that he did the very thing you say he didn't do...that he wanted innocent cops to be killed. That he specifically led calls for innocent cops to be killed.

    I'm sorry you want to be pissy that people aren't just ignoring the lunacy of this topic or the fraudulent claims made throughout it and instead focusing on an entirely seperate thing that isn't what was asked in this thread...but that's what happens when you start a thread asking if he contributed to a murder by doing something he factually did not do.
    So then complain to the people who are making claims against Sharpton that you don't like. I'm not being pissy about anything. I believe Sharpton contributed to what happened, and fanning flames is a very dangerous situation, and the fact is, this has been brewing for years. I'm surprised it took this long.

    Yes, his rhetoric contributed to the deaths of these 2 policemen. You disagree - and that's your right. Just like it's my right to say he contributed to the problem and this is now the end result.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You can toss all the non-relevant chum into the waters you want - doesn't change the facts. But keep excusing the anti-cop hate speech and the race baiting pimps and you'll continue to have these kinds of incidents.
    And you will continue to have these kinds of incidents when you pretend that the cops can do no wrong and can trample all over everybody else's right.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    I don't have access to those books. Do you have any link online that has evidence to Obama meeting with Military advisers less than 61 times over 5 years?
    Whats being said is that Obama ignores his military advisers, they are out of the loop just like the Secretary of Defense is nothing more than a figure head under the Obama administration. The real Secretary of defense, those who are making the national security decisions and who are behind the social engineering of the military are Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Al Sharpton's race hustling and poverty pimping are long known and he's a frequent guest to the Obama whitehouse, but in recent days Sharpton led a rally in NYC where "What Do We Want? Dead Cops! was shouted. As we know, two of NYPD's finest were executed by a man who may be an islamist. The two cops weren't even white-just cops.





    Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?
    Doesn't really matter if it did. Al Sharpton is a permutation of of the anxieties and fears of black people and civil rights minded folk. As long as those anxieties and fears continue to exist, "Al Sharptons" will always exist as well.

    That will happen as long as blacks as poor and socially irrelevant to the mainstream.

    It's like Rush Limbaugh. He is an invention of the free market and exists because there is a significant economic demand for commentary of the type he supplies.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So then complain to the people who are making claims against Sharpton that you don't like.
    I've been vocalizing my disagreement with them, and I'm vocalizing my disagreement with you. Specifically you getting upset that people are actually dealing with the ridiculousness brought up in this thread instead of just going "Al Sharpton bad! Who cares about lies, Al Sharpton bad!" I'm sorry dealing with facts and reality make people "apologists" to you, but that says more about you than them.

    You want to cast blame for MURDER on people due to SPEECH that in no way, shape, or form advocated for klling and which there is zero proof the killer was motivated by it. I'll be sure to keep that in mind for the future for what I'm sure will be a consistent stance on your part.

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