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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Sawdust who is funding Sharpton? Got any ideas?
    Here's a little history.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Al Sharpton's race hustling and poverty pimping are long known and he's a frequent guest to the Obama whitehouse, but in recent days Sharpton led a rally in NYC where "What Do We Want?… Dead Cops!” was shouted. As we know, two of NYPD's finest were executed by a man who may be an islamist. The two cops weren't even white-just cops.
    Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?
    Because someone in the crowd shouted something bad - and I'm taking your word that it happened - you're assuming that Sharpton must have heard it, and that Sharpton must have caused it.

    Gotta watch those assumptions...they don't lead to good places....
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Thanks, I found one too that listed 42 top donors. Most of them are corporations. Corporations are easy targets for shakedowns so they pay money to avoid one like an organized boycott etc. Over the weekend in the biggest mall in the country in Minneapolis there was an organized protest that got out of hand. My curiosity is raised if any of those protesters bothered stores in the mall that are on the "big donor" list like Macy's.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    At no point did I absolve the shooter of his responsibility in the matter.....
    Kinda seems like you did. Anyway....


    But only an utter fool would fail to see the connection between the anti-cop hate speech and rhetoric directed at NYC police officers in general following the Garner GJ decision and a man traveling from Baltimore to NYC in order to seek out retribution against police officers.
    Only an utter fool would ignore how:
    • Almost all of the protests in NYC have been peaceful
    • Neither Sharpton, nor Di Blasio, nor Garner's family, or any major public figure has in any way suggested assaulting police officers
    • Brinsley shot his ex-girlfriend in Baltimore -- is that also Sharpton's fault?
    • Brinsley was not political, was not associated with any political activism or political groups, and wasn't motivated by politics
    • Brinsley was probably going to murder someone, some day, and his choice of victims doesn't have any real political significance


    Go ahead, explain why the man didn't just shoot a couple of cops in Baltimore if his actions had nothing to do with the anti-cop speech directed at NYC police officers.
    Go ahead, explain why he shot his girlfriend first. Explain why he didn't go to Staten Island, which is where Garner was killed. Why he didn't try to track down Officer Pantaleo, who put Garner in a choke hold. How he was inspired by Sharpton, who wasn't advocating violence. How he was inspired by Garner's family, who wasn't advocating violence either. How tens of thousands of peaceful protestors, who are protesting against the illegitimate use of violence, pushed someone to shoot two cops.

    I mean, really, how is this supposed to work? Did he watch a video of a bunch of drunken bros in Santa outfits yelling at police brutality protestors, and become overwhelmed with rage? Maybe he listened to some Judas Priest before committing suicide? Maybe he played too many video games? No wait, I've got it. He watched The Matrix one time too many. Keanu Reeves now has blood on his hands!

    Last week, a man named Bradley Stone shot 6 people in Philadelphia. Which Social Justice Warriors are to blame for this? Who has blood on their hands for Stone's actions?

    Or maybe... just maybe... Brinley was mentally disturbed, it was just a matter of time before he shot someone, and his choice of victims had no actual political purpose, and it's absurd to treat it that way. Just a thought.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Or hel even come out that day and say "they ain't us". but they didn't.
    That's what I'm doing right now. But you already made up your mind, so the facts don't make a difference.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I'm just going by what I saw. And you are right, maybe I misread something, I am looking for the flier.




    I will concede this, I can't find it. let me amend my position. when this **** was happening, and the garbage cans rained down from stories above onto unsuspecting cops, when white upper middle class CUNY dudes attack cops on the brooklyn bridge, these same "organizers" need to come out and say this is not us. they don't until another funeral is planned.
    Here's the flyer:

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah. I'm sure that the professor who was throwing metal trash cans off a bridge at cops was a secret conservative, as were the protestors who attacked the police when they moved in to arrest him. All of them there just to make Sharpton & Co. look bad


    this is a famous left wing tactic (Salinsky used to advise college students to protest in favor of Republicans while publicly associating themselves with the KKK, and famously there was the call to infiltrate the Tea Party protests with racist signs), but not one that I've seen the right use much.
    I didn't claim that the violent or destructive protesters were not supporters of the cause or were trying to discredit the cause, most probably are supporters, but they are still idiots that the protest organizers can not be held responsible for. I have seen those idiots show up and cause trouble at otherwise peaceful protests on several occasions. In many cases, other protesters have attempted to stop violence or destruction.

    Under CointelPro, government agents did urge or commit violence to discredit protesters. There have been a few people caught doing the same more recently, but I don't claim that they are the majority of the violent/destructive element at protests. There are always idiots looking for an opportunity, such as a large protest, where they can get away with being destructive.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Indeed. Normally, people with such, err, 'colored' past aren't welcomed at the White House.

    Sharpton Owes $4M in taxes, Still hasn't paid his legal obligations for damages from the Tawana Brawley case.

    The guy is a real piece of work. You know he started out as a drug hustler for a street gang until he turned on them as an informant, right?

    Such a (*cough*) trustworthy (*cough*) fellow, and welcomed at Obama's White House, frequently. Just goes to show you, this is far from any sort of 'post racial' president, as he once claimed of himself.
    They are just two con men who understand each other-Sharpton and Obama.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Since so many conservatives are deseperately attempting to suggest that blaming Al Sharpton is legitimate here...

    It shouldn't be hard for one of them to provide me a quote from Al Sharpton encouraging, or calling for, any criminal act in regards to these recent killings.

    So there you go. Provide me with a link of Sharpton advocating for an illegal action to be done. If tha can be provided I'll get right on board with the accusation that Sharpton is guilty of inciting this crime.

    Note...showing a youtube video of one random protest that is advocating for a crime, and then showing a youtube video of an entirely seperate protest that Sharpton is a part of that isn't advocating for a crime, and then trying to equate them as being the exact same thing and thus Sharpton is guilty is NOT a legitiamte argument.
    We both know that sharpton has contributed to the rhetoric and overall atmosphere here, if you want to hide behind him actually calling for the deaths of cops-knock yourself out but that doesn't change what he's presided over. Sharpton has significantly increased racial tensions in this nation, and racial tensions contributed to the deaths of these officers. Again, we both know that.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think the perception among quite a lot of whites that Sharpton and the protests had a lot to do with the death of the 2 NYPD officers. But perceptions may not be real and may have little or no facts, truths to back them up. But how people perceive things leads them to their conclusions of what is happening and going on.
    I believe that Sharpton has greatly exacerbated racial tension for his personal benefit and that contributed to the deaths of these two officers.

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