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Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contr to the deaths of 2 Police officers? [W:68, W:433]

Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

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Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Kobie said:
You're lying. Sharpton had nothing to do with the "dead cops" protest. That lie was repeatedly debunked yesterday, yet you continue to lie.
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Kobie, Sharpton is so lucky to have you around defending his actions. Way to go.
 
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US Conservative said:
Its the same lefty occupy crowd. Advocating for the same sunshine and rainbows BS.
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Well I agree with you that they are leftists. A rose and a red star says it all. Remember the professor that was arrested during the march in NYC that day for assaulting officers on the Brooklyn Bridge? He is a member of this group.
 
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vesper said:
Well I agree with you that they are leftists. A rose and a red star says it all. Remember the professor that was arrested during the march in NYC that day for assaulting officers on the Brooklyn Bridge? He is a member of this group.
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Yeah the guy throwing the trashcan? This is the guy teaching mind-rot to peoples kids.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Zyphlin said:
Yeah, it really is plain English. In plain english you misrepresented and/or flat out lied that Sharpton led a rally shouting for dead cops, and proceeded to use that as justification for Sharpton "contributing" to the death of two cops.

Did Sharpton's "rhetoric" contribute to the heated atmosphere? Yes. So has the "rhetoric" of the President, of various police officers, of various TV personalities, of Fox News, of CNN, of the New York Times or the New York Post, and everyone else commenting heavily about this issue, because it's helped to cause to grow to ridiculous proportions.

But did it contribute to the murder of two police officers? No. It's ridiculous to claim that an individuals speech that in no way directly incites, calls for, or directs people to commit a crime, "contributed" to murder.

Just as I said it was ridiculous to suggest that Tea Partiers or Sarah Palin "contributed" to the the murder of the little girl and the shooting of Gabby Giffords when people erroneously threw out such accusations (doubly stupidly, since it finally came out he wasn't a tea partier). And just as it would be ridiculous to accuse those people who created the "Zeitgiest" movie for the shooting. And just like it's ridiculous to suggest the Tea Party or Bundy Supporters "Contributed" to the death of Las Vegas Police Officers wrapped in "Don't tread on me" flags. It's ridiculous to blame Sharpton for the murder in this case. IF you want to cast blame at him in part for the over all enflamed atmosphere surrounding these cases, that's reasonable. That's entirely different than suggesting he actively contributed to the MURDER.
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However it's not unreasonable to claim that Al Sharpton has blood on his hands for fomenting the radical race baiting atmosphere of these protests. Without Sharpton rushing to the airport and heading to every locale where an African American is killed by a cop and fomenting unrest, I don't think the rally where they were chanting "What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!" or the murder of the two cops would have occurred.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Zyphlin said:
Which Sharpton had nothing to do with, so how would Sharpton to be responsible if he was motivated by people Sharpton had nothing to do with chanting support for a crime being performed.

If you want to talk about whether or not those individuals in that particular crowd "contributed" to those deaths, that's at least a more reasonable argument, as you have a legitimate argument in terms of "inciting" the murder when you're talking about people actually directly advocating for the illegal activity in question.

But that has nothing to do with Sharpton.
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Without Sharpton's stirring the pot, most of those protesters would not be there.
 
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rocket88 said:
Of course you are. We're supposed to play our side and say "Go team" at every chance. That's why I love Al Sharpton and worship at the feet of Joe Biden, and am a card carrying member of Hamas (all of which I've been accused of, I might add).
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Al Sharpton is a race baiting thug who should be in prison for tax evasion.
 
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US Conservative said:
Kobie, Sharpton is so lucky to have you around defending his actions. Way to go.
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Pointing out your blatant lies =/= "defending his actions."
 
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ObamacareFail said:
Without Sharpton's stirring the pot, most of those protesters would not be there.
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Nobody ever protested anything before Al Sharpton came on the scene.
 
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How dare you say al sharoton led a group of people and they were chanting to kill cops al shapton was no where around that little group of low life scum he would not have his job today dont group the other black law abiding citizens in that s--t
 
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Thank you very well explained
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

US Conservative said:
Yeah the guy throwing the trashcan? This is the guy teaching mind-rot to peoples kids.
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Yep. But people like him can be found in just about any university.

I think the evidence shows that the Millions march on Dec. 13 show that an organizing group that goes by Black Lives Matters has ties to Al Sharpton. Black Live Matters works like a community organizer with hubs set up all over the nation. They are also responsible for the shutdown of Mall of America, the largest mall in the U.S. in Milwaukee over the weekend and now face legal charges for what they did after being warned the mall was private property. While Al Sharpton was leading the march in DC, there were thousands of Black Lives Matters members present at that march. At the same time Black Lives Matters organized the march in NYC on the same day. It was like how Sheriff Clarke described what happened in Ferguson. Al Sharpton comes in and ratchets up the rhetoric and whips people into anger. Then every leftist special interest group who often has disdain for this country shows up to feed off the dead carcass on the side of the road that Sharpton and folks like him have provided to turn it into a circus. Sharpton is long gone when the attacks on police, the burning of buildings, begin but it was his rhetoric that helped bring it to be. And it sure as Hell doesn't help to have a man like Sharpton to be elevated to someone with clout when he has the ear of the president visiting the White House over 80 times in six years. Nor does it help to have the DNC make him a guest speaker at their last convention unless they actually believe in what Al Sharpton stands for.
 
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Kobie said:
Nobody ever protested anything before Al Sharpton came on the scene.
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I did not say or suggest that. However it grew ten-fold once Sharpton injected himself.
 
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vesper said:
Yep. But people like him can be found in just about any university.

I think the evidence shows that the Millions march on Dec. 13 show that an organizing group that goes by Black Lives Matters has ties to Al Sharpton. Black Live Matters works like a community organizer with hubs set up all over the nation. They are also responsible for the shutdown of Mall of America, the largest mall in the U.S. in Milwaukee over the weekend and now face legal charges for what they did after being warned the mall was private property. While Al Sharpton was leading the march in DC, there were thousands of Black Lives Matters members present at that march. At the same time Black Lives Matters organized the march in NYC on the same day. It was like how Sheriff Clarke described what happened in Ferguson. Al Sharpton comes in and ratchets up the rhetoric and whips people into anger. Then every leftist special interest group who often has disdain for this country shows up to feed off the dead carcass on the side of the road that Sharpton and folks like him have provided to turn it into a circus. Sharpton is long gone when the attacks on police, the burning of buildings, begin but it was his rhetoric that helped bring it to be. And it sure as Hell doesn't help to have a man like Sharpton to be elevated to someone with clout when he has the ear of the president visiting the White House over 80 times in six years. Nor does it help to have the DNC make him a guest speaker at their last convention unless they actually believe in what Al Sharpton stands for.
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Agreed and after he's thrown gas on the fire and two cops are dead, suddenly he has no relation to the incident-he's just an innocent bystander. Nobody except the forums impressionable lefties are buying it.
 
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US Conservative said:
Agreed and after he's thrown gas on the fire and two cops are dead, suddenly he has no relation to the incident-he's just an innocent bystander. Nobody except the forums impressionable lefties are buying it.
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There may be lefties on this forum who are buying it but the Daily Beast is hardly a conservative website and they aren't buying it. Neither are other left leaning news groups. Heck even Bob Beckle on the Five today called for the Black Caucus to stand up against these radical groups because they do not represent the views of the majority of Democrats.
 
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US Conservative said:
In the mean time Sharpton leads protests that call for dead cops,
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So you're still continuing to push the same provably false lie. Absolutely pathetic and highlights the intellectual dishonest inherent in your argument since you keep having to use an outright falsehood as the foundation of your point.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

US Conservative said:
Answered with a straw man. Fitting.
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That's not a strawman. You have repeatedly lied and said that Sharpton led a march that called for dead cops.
 
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Zyphlin said:
So you're still continuing to push the same provably false lie. Absolutely pathetic and highlights the intellectual dishonest inherent in your argument since you keep having to use an outright falsehood as the foundation of your point.
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Who is being intellectually dishonest?

Black Lives Matter organized the rally march in DC. It was Al Sharpton's organization, National Action Network, that promoted it.

It was Black Lives Matter that organized the Millions march in NYC on the same day where Trayvon Martin Organizing Committee was responsible for the dead cops rhetoric.

 
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vesper said:
Who is being intellectually dishonest?

Black Lives Matter organized the rally march in DC. It was Al Sharpton's organization, National Action Network, that promoted it.

It was Black Lives Matter that organized the Millions march in NYC on the same day where Trayvon Martin Organizing Committee was responsible for the dead cops rhetoric.

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You do realize that Washington, DC and New York City are separate places, right?
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Kobie said:
You do realize that Washington, DC and New York City are separate places, right?
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You do realize that Black Lives Matter organized both marches don't you? And Al Sharpton' group promoted them. You do realize the difference between organizing and promoting right?
 
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vesper said:
You do realize that Black Lives Matter organized both marches don't you? And Al Sharpton' group promoted them. You do realize the difference between organizing and promoting right?
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No, Sharpton's group did NOT promote the NYC rally.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Kobie said:
You do realize that Washington, DC and New York City are separate places, right?
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Kobie your contributions are always so insightful. Sharpton would agree no doubt.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
Al Sharpton is a race baiting thug who should be in prison for tax evasion.
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Probably so, but that doesn't make him responsible for everything bad that happens.
 
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