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Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contr to the deaths of 2 Police officers? [W:68, W:433]

Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?


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Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

:lol:

I think most people would be happy if police served and protected the community, wore body cameras, and were better trained. The debate could even go into the area of the militarization of our police forces, and the government turning arrest and imprisionment into a for-profit industry, but in the Fox News clips posted in the OP, the discussion was instead focused on provoking racial division and fear.

The story is going to go away in a few weeks, and all your fears of cops walking off their jobs will be gone too...

Just like their Ebola in the USA panic.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

I noticed you didn't answer my question. We can leave it at that because we both know the answer.

The answer is that you are wrong and reinoe is correct. He basically destroyed your position that the guy who shot Giffords was a leftist and you have no response.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

If I remember correctly, Bill Ayres wife Bernardine Dohrn killed/murdered a cop. Must be a left wing thing to kill cops.

Bernadette Dohrn, Bill Ayers and the bomb that killed a cop

Bernardine Dohrn - Discover the Networks

Bill Ayers - Discover the Networks

Those incidents were over 40 years ago. Meanwhile...

"...since 9/11 extremists affiliated with a variety of far-right wing ideologies, including white supremacists, anti-abortion extremists and anti-government militants, have killed more people in the United States than have extremists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology. According to a count by the New America Foundation, right wing extremists have killed 34 people in the United States for political reasons since 9/11. (The total includes the latest shootings in Kansas, which are being classified as a hate crime).
"Since 9/11 extremists affiliated with a variety of far-right wing ideologies...have killed more people in the United States than have extremists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology."

By contrast, terrorists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology have killed 21 people in the United States since 9/11.

(Although a variety of left wing militants and environmental extremists have carried out violent attacks for political reasons against property and individuals since 9/11, none have been linked to a lethal attack, according to research by the New America Foundation..."
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/opinion/bergen-sterman-kansas-shooting/

"Below is a list of some of the right-wing extremist terror plots and violence from recent years.

July 27, 2008

Unemployed truck driver Jim David Adkisson opens fire on the congregation of a Unitarian Church in Knoxville, Tennessee, killing two people and seriously wounding six. Adkisson tells police he targeted the congregation because its members included gay men and mixed-race couples. ...

March 9, 2011

Kevin William Harpham is charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction and receiving and possessing an improvised explosive device in relation to the attempted bombing of an Martin Luther King Day parade. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, Harpham was previously a member of the National Alliance, an infamous neo-Nazi organization although it's unclear whether he's still a card-carrying member.

An individual identifying himself Kevin Harpham made several posting on the anti-Semitic website Vanguard News Network, including a March 2008 post to a VNN discussion titled, "Violent Revolution Against ZOG." [ZOG stands for "Zionist Occupied Government.]

(More here)
Lone Wolves: A Recent History of Violent Right-Wing Extremism | Blog | Media Matters for America
 
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Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Judging by the number of votes our left wing friends posted its look like they got out of the site and voted over and over again anonymously. Its sad they would stoop so low as to do that. It looks like the actual no votes was 6 not l02.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Judging by the number of votes our left wing friends posted its look like they got out of the site and voted over and over again anonymously. Its sad they would stoop so low as to do that.

Haha! This sounds like a serious case of projection. Have often have you done that in the past?
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Haha! This sounds like a serious case of projection. Have often have you done that in the past?

I don't have to sink so low to do that like you do. The sad part is its a legitimate poll and it is skewed by your numerous posts.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

I voted no because as far as I am aware, Al Sharpton has not chanted anything about wanting dead cops, nor condoned any chant. If that were the case, I would vote yes.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

I don't have to sink so low to do that like you do. The sad part is its a legitimate poll and it is skewed by your numerous posts.

Hahaha! I really hope you are a just a clever troll
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

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Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

How about the other LEOs who were killed in the line of duty since the "gentle giant" met his demise?

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Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

You mean the Sharpton-led protest he wasn't present at and wasn't organized by his group? Why continue to perpetuate that lie?

No Sharpton wasn't in NYC when the crowd was videoed calling for dead cops but the activist group that did organize the Million March in NYC was well represented in numbers at Al Sharpton's led march in DC. The group's name is Black Lives Matter that were behind organizing the NYC Million March.

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Daily Beast has been investigating within the groups present at the march were responsible for chanting for dead cops as there were several organizations. They seem to think all fingers point to the Trayvon Martin Organizing Committee. (TMOC)

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The Monsters Who Screamed for Dead Cops - The Daily Beast
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

No Sharpton wasn't in NYC when the crowd was videoed calling for dead cops but the activist group that did organize the Million March in NYC was well represented in numbers at Al Sharpton's led march in DC. The group's name is Black Lives Matter that were behind organizing the NYC Million March.

Black Lives Matter isn't an "organization" in the traditional sense of the word for that matter in any sense of the word. It's more like splinter cells of community groups all over the county using single banner to identify their cause. Think tea party. Though people sometimes make the mistake (myself included) of viewing it as a single group, it's more like a whole bunch of little groups all over the country doing their own protests under the tea party banner. It's an umbrella term for people to understand what the rally is about. So for example, a local church can hold a BLM event and simply notify members what it is about by using the hashtag #blacklivesmatter. This is a little complex, I know but pretty straightforward if you understand the role of social media in organizing protests.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

Big Lie of Anti-Cop Left Turns Lethal - Heather Mac Donald, City Journal

"Since last summer, a lie has overtaken significant parts of the country, resulting in growing mass hysteria. That lie holds that the police pose a mortal threat to black Americans—indeed that the police are the greatest threat facing black Americans today. Several subsidiary untruths buttress that central myth: that the criminal-justice system is biased against blacks; that the black underclass doesn’t exist; and that crime rates are comparable between blacks and whites—leaving disproportionate police action in minority neighborhoods unexplained without reference to racism. The poisonous effect of those lies has now manifested itself in the cold-blooded assassination of two NYPD officers. . . ."
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

......“In Washington, the rally was held by the Rev. Al Sharpton, host of MSNBC program — and there he is,” Fox News host Tucker Carlson as video of Sharpton’s Saturday speech played. “Sharpton got up and explained, ‘We’re not against the police.’ This was his claim, listen.”

At that point, Fox News showed a clip from a protest later that evening in Manhattan.

“What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!” the protesters reportedly shouted.

The video then flipped back to Sharpton: “We’re not saying all police are bad. We’re not even saying most are bad. We’re not anti-police, but we’re anti-brutality. And the federal government must have a threshold to protect that.”

Fox News host Anna Kooiman pointed out after the clip aired that she had accidentally gotten stuck in traffic because of the protests in New York City, and never heard calls for violence against police.

“But what they were doing was making this into a racial issue,” Carlson opined. “What I don’t think this is about is race, I don’t think these are examples of racism. And I think it’s totally unhelpful to make this a conversation about white vs. black.”

“And it’s ridiculous to have it led by Al Sharpton who has zero credibility at all, he’s a hustler, and I think a criminal.”

Fox News deceptively edits Al Sharpton’s anti-violence speech to include chant for ‘dead cops’

So, show Al Sharpton in DC....
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Then show a NYC march/protest.....
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And then say(with laughter):
.....huh, so the first clip we heard people were saying "we want the cops dead" and the second(laughter)heard Al Sharpton say "we are not against the police"......
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Fox is actually fueling the flames. :fueltofir

Happens all the time with tucker and Fox.......
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Judging by the number of votes our left wing friends posted its look like they got out of the site and voted over and over again anonymously. Its sad they would stoop so low as to do that. It looks like the actual no votes was 6 not l02.

Yes indeed. For some reason the only options polls have here at DP are private polls (where leftists will vote as conservatives to provide misleading results without scrutiny) or public polls where people outside the site can vote (that again, can be anyone, and that are intended to distort the results to suit the left). In this threads poll, it spins the poll results to a different direction, and in the JFK/Cuba embargo thread only a few forumites voted but over 100 votes blamed JFK's embargo on the TEA party. :doh

Its probably just a bad apple or two but everything the left does is about spin. I'd like to see the mods address this by having an option that is public but not open to those outside the site.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

The answer is that you are wrong and reinoe is correct. He basically destroyed your position that the guy who shot Giffords was a leftist and you have no response.

Untrue. If you recall (I do) at the time of the shooting he was show to have liberal tendencies, and so what did libs do? They blamed it on a crosshairs graphic on a political opponents website. :lamo

The left is a spin machine, thats what it does. In the mean time Sharpton leads protests that call for dead cops, has a history of inciting violence, and only a week later 2 cops are assassinated and these SAME lefties tell us there is no possible connection. :roll: Get out of town.

Heres the news-the left uses race for political purposes, and the media uses race for political and financial purposes (ratings). These are facts your ideology will never allow you substantively address.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

No Sharpton wasn't in NYC when the crowd was videoed calling for dead cops but the activist group that did organize the Million March in NYC was well represented in numbers at Al Sharpton's led march in DC. The group's name is Black Lives Matter that were behind organizing the NYC Million March.

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Daily Beast has been investigating within the groups present at the march were responsible for chanting for dead cops as there were several organizations. They seem to think all fingers point to the Trayvon Martin Organizing Committee. (TMOC)

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The Monsters Who Screamed for Dead Cops - The Daily Beast

What the **** does "No cops/No Prisons" mean?
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Untrue. If you recall (I do) at the time of the shooting he was show to have liberal tendencies, and so what did libs do? They blamed it on a crosshairs graphic on a political opponents website. :lamo

The left is a spin machine, thats what it does. In the mean time Sharpton leads protests that call for dead cops, has a history of inciting violence, and only a week later 2 cops are assassinated and these SAME lefties tell us there is no possible connection. :roll: Get out of town.

Heres the news-the left uses race for political purposes, and the media uses race for political and financial purposes (ratings). These are facts your ideology will never allow you substantively address.

Still lying about Sharpton, I see.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Still lying about Sharpton, I see.

Kobie-answer these directly.

1. True or false-Sharpton uses race for political purposes.

2. True or false the left uses race for political purposes.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

What the **** does "No cops/No Prisons" mean?

They think that too many black criminals are arrested, therefore they want less blacks arrested.

What they are really saying is they want more black victims.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Kobie-answer these directly.

1. True or false-Sharpton uses race for political purposes.

2. True or false the left uses race for political purposes.

1. Of course he does.

2. True, and so does the right.

Al Sharpton did not lead protests calling for dead cops. Every time you repeat it is just another lie.
 
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What the **** does "No cops/No Prisons" mean?

They are associated with the Trayvon Martin Organizing Committee which has groups set up all over the country. Maybe a city near you.
Check out their Facebook page.
Trayvon Martin Organizing Committee | Justice for Trayvon Martin and all victims of white supremacy & capitalism

Take a look at the banner straight on and note the rose and the red star and ask yourself what political ideology is associated with those two symbols.

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Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

1. Of course he does.

2. True, and so does the right.

Al Sharpton did not lead protests calling for dead cops. Every time you repeat it is just another lie.

Sharpton led 3 protests in 3 cities that day, and in NYC where cops were assassinated-they chanted that they wanted dead cops.

We know the race hustlers have blood on their hands, Kobie-give it up.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

They are associated with the Trayvon Martin Organizing Committee which has groups set up all over the country. Maybe a city near you.
Check out their Facebook page.
Trayvon Martin Organizing Committee | Justice for Trayvon Martin and all victims of white supremacy & capitalism

Take a look at the banner straight on and note the rose and the red star and ask yourself what political ideology is associated with those two symbols.

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Its the same lefty occupy crowd. Advocating for the same sunshine and rainbows BS.
 
Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

Sharpton led 3 protests in 3 cities that day, and in NYC where cops were assassinated-they chanted that they wanted dead cops.

We know the race hustlers have blood on their hands, Kobie-give it up.

You're lying. Sharpton had nothing to do with the "dead cops" protest. That lie was repeatedly debunked yesterday, yet you continue to lie.
 
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